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Darn, I should have waited. I just bought it at Amazon ($8)
That's okay, I still plan to use mine again in the future. 😉
Ski! Did you get the book yet? If so, could you please check something out for me?I'd like to know the way for a footnote citation (Turabian) for a journal article from an online database. There's one here (http://www.libs.uga.edu/ref/turabian.html) but it doesn't show any page number on it, which seems kind of odd. I've got page numbers for a particular source from such a database but I don't want to delete the page numbers just quite yet. So, if you could double check and tell me what your book says about it. The footnote citation I'm using, according to the UGA format, is this (notice no page numbers):R. Barry Levis, ?Begin to grow rude and clamorous: English Politics and the Battle over Church Architecture, 1714-1760,? Journal of Church & State 47, no. 4 (Autumn 2005), in Academic Search Premier [database on-line], EBSCOhost (accessed December 15, 2007).
Hmm, I don't think a page number is needed.
Journal article published online16. Linda Belau, "Trauma and the Material Signifier," PostmodernCulture 11, no. 2 (2001): par. 6, http://www.iath.virginia.edu/pmc/text-only/issue.101/11.2belau.txt.Belau, Linda. "Trauma and the Material Signifier." Postmodern Culture11, no. 2 (2001). http://www.iath.virginia.edu/pmc/text-only/issue.101/11.2belau.txt.
http://www.dianahacker.com/resdoc/p04_c10_s2.htmlHere's word for word from the book about Journal Articles Published Online:"Articles in online journals might not include page numbers, especially if they are not published in parallel print journals. If page numbers are not available, you may identify the location of a cited passage in a paranthetical citation by adding a decriptive locator (such as a preceding subheading) following the word under."Some other links:http://www.wisc.edu/writing/Handbook/DocChicago.htmlhttp://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/tools_citationguide.html
It's not bad. I thought I had better links, but most are for MLA.The reference to the book section is 17.2.7.Are you comfortable with print journals? It says follow the same guidelines as those, and then what I posted earlier.Are notes optional?
Yes, I can cite print journals fine. Yes, I think I can add notes; after all, footnotes are supposed to be designed to help the reader, so if I needed to I think I could throw some in. For an average paper to be turned in I don't think a professor will care/check too much if there is one tiny thing that is off. I think it's more when a paper is published in a journal that citations need to be pretty accurate, since someone reading the article 10, 20, or 50 years later may want to know exactly where certain information came from.
Alright, I have another question and I hope I not getting too technical here for my own good. Say I put in a first cite for a source that is something like an online database/book where I have to give the date I accessed the site. What do I do on subsequent cites? For example, my first cite might be:R. Barry Levis, ?Begin to grow rude and clamorous: English Politics and the Battle over Church Architecture, 1714-1760,? Journal of Church & State 47, no. 4 (Autumn 2005), in Academic Search Premier [database on-line], EBSCOhost (accessed December 15, 2007).The second cite is normally something like:Levis, 77.First, I didn't include a page number in the first quote, so what good is a page number in the second? But also, what happens if I access the same online source, but on a different date? Would it be something like:Levis, 77 (accessed December 17, 2007).??? I don't know if this answer is even in your book. But if you happen to come across it I'd be interested in knowing. I think what I might do is simply do what seems intuitive, since in the end citations are supposed to be helpful to the reader.
That's probably fine Phid, but make sure when you go back and cite that Levin source again after another source, you don't cite the entire citation again. An abbreviated citation is all that is necessary…author, title, and page number.
BRB as soon as I get an answer, I'll ask my history professor about this. (and check the book when I get home from work).
