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For those interested.Rugby was said to have started in 1823 by William Webb Ellis of Ireland. It was originally known as Caid or Cad. (you'll have to google the literal meaning of that cause I ain't typing it! ;D) However its origins can be traced back to the 12th century where competive ballgames were first recorded. It is very Celtic in origin and involved (and still does) "running with the ball out of pure inspiration" and spread quickly to England.http://www.rugbyfootballhistory.com/originsofrugby.htmAfter it became popular, the Rugby Football Union was formed in 1871 and consisted of 21 clubs throughout Europe.Here's some early pictures and prints of players, teams, games and other advertisements from the early 1900's.http://rugby-pioneers.blogs.com/rugby/1_rugby_print/index.htmlRugby is an exciting, grueling, difficult, and incredibly fun game to play and is so unlike American football. (there is nothing like a scrum formation. The incredible power and force of the two 5-7 member teams of forwards is simply astounding. Advice to the smaller guys who are not forwards, just get the ball and get out of there real fast!! Tis better to run into or be tackled by someone around your size than to run into and be tackled by one or a couple of huge 6'4 solid walls) Currently there are numerous rules and laws, but, IMO the purest and oldest is International Rules Rugby which is still in existence today and followed by the majority of rugby clubs and colleges in North America and Europe.
I wonder if these games relate to new world, where life is not challenged? Obviously not. How could culture travel the wrong way in the fifteenth century? Ancient Indians in America played such games with balls. To the death, so modern clubs should not be snubbed, unless they have no such balls.But it all relates. Balls? Or no balls? That is the question. I think the question has already been answered. I think we suffer a shortage of balls.
I do not want to denigrate the original football. What pisses me off, however, is the bloody Ameicans that think they are the football champions. Football, by definition, is soccororerr. How do you spell sooccoocccorer? But, can football really be soccer?
It's just cultural differences and modifications that's all. Football is derived from soccer, rugby, and other ball games just as baseball is derived from cricket. There are championships for all of them. Are the Giants better than or any less athletic than Ireland's rugby team? Is Ireland's International Rules rugby team better than Melbourne's Aussie rules rugby team? I don't think so, because it's completely different sports. I don't think a professional world champion rugby team can stop or prevent a Manning to Burress 40-50 yard pass, but on the other hand, I don't think a Superbowl champion defensive line can prevent a world champion rugby team from maintaining possession for 20 minutes and advancing to score. (there's no downs in rugby). I also think pretty much any rugby team can take any American football team in a bar fight. ;D
I also think pretty much any rugby team can take any American football team in a bar fight. ;D
Yeah, I wouldn't really be surprised if that were true! 😀But you say that rugby has its "origins" dating back to the 12th Century but didn't really begin as a proper sport until 1823. Kind of leaves open the question....what were they doing for the 700 years in between?! Surely people would have thought of establishing ground rules, or teams, or leagues at some point, eh? Perhaps they did at different points in time....
Only guessing here, I bet soccer and rugby had the same “origins” and with all their different variations. Getting a ball to a goal has been around for a long time. The laws (rules) for rugby weren't unioinized or established until the 1880's.
Medieval chroniclers documented games of football between rival villages who would do anything in their power to kick, carry and blast a ball past their opponents. Authorities would later attempt to outlaw such dangerous and unproductive pastimes.The first recorded game of ball being played in London was in 1175. This was documented by a London born monk called William Fitzstephen who wrote a 'history of London' in Latin where he documented: "After lunch all the youth of the city go out into the fields to take part in a ball game. The students of each school have their own ball; the workers from each city craft are also carrying their balls. Older citizens, fathers, and wealthy citizens come on horseback to watch their juniors competing, and to relive their own youth vicariously: you can see their inner passions aroused as they watch the action and get caught up in the fun being had by the carefree adolescents"
I don't care what anybody says, rugby is cool because the scrum must look like ancient hoplite warfare on a smaller scale. There's an impenetrable human wall created on both sides and they just push into each other and inch back and forth until the ball's out. Other than no armor and shileds, tell me [url url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SSkq547r9Ithis[/url] doesn't look like what hoplite warfare must have been.I'm trying to figure out an analogy for the lineout passes of the backs. I guess it would be like scouts who went and attacked the cavalry and archers with the cavalry and archers being the try (end) zone, but that's a poor analogy.Some European sports are cooler than American sports. Maybe because there's so much history behind them.
(you'll have to google the literal meaning of that cause I ain't typing it! )
Let's just say, bulls were big with trhe Celts.
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