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Offline Phidippides

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Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« on: June 01, 2007, 02:15:08 PM »
I just saw a trailer for the new National Treasure movie which involves some conspiracy surrounding the Abraham Lincoln assassination.  In the trailer (and likely key to the movie's storyline) are JWB's missing pages.  Has anyone heard that this is actually true or not, and if so, what have you heard about them?

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Here's a link to the trailer:

http://disney.go.com/disneypictures/nationaltreasure/
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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2007, 10:59:51 AM »
That is absolutly true (i didnt even know they were making an NT2) 18 pages to be exact.



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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2007, 05:46:28 PM »
It will be interesting to see what conspiracy the movie ties into the JWB pages.  I don't think I was aware that such a diary even existed.  I remember seeing a map of JWB's escape route after the assassination (actually there's one here as well).  I think it was from a newspaper article.  I believe it said the place where he was captured is now merely a median or side of some highway...perhaps unremarkable to the passer by.

Now that I'm read a little more on JWB it's interesting that his last words were "tell my mother I did it for my country...useless, useless [while looking at his hands being held up to his face]." (1)  I wonder what he meant by it.

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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2007, 08:42:59 PM »
I saw a History Channel program several years ago that pointed toward Stanton as the mastermind.  He planned to eliminate everyone above him and be president.  The other assassinations failed with only Booth being successful.
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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2007, 10:35:57 PM »
I'm not sure if it was the same show, but I recall that I saw an episode of something where others had tried to assassinate Lincoln as well, such as while he was on horseback.
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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2007, 12:55:51 AM »
I believe you might be refering to Boothes kidnap attempt.
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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2008, 05:04:38 PM »
Approx: 50 years after the Lincoln assassanation descendents of Stanton found the 18 missing pages from Boothes diary in the attic of the Stanton family home. Booth named all of the names and it led right up to Stanton who was power hungry. It's twisted how our government and the history books still do not tell the truth even after all of these years. Not much different than JFK's killing.

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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2008, 08:09:58 PM »
Approx: 50 years after the Lincoln assassanation descendents of Stanton found the 18 missing pages from Boothes diary in the attic of the Stanton family home. Booth named all of the names and it led right up to Stanton who was power hungry. It's twisted how our government and the history books still do not tell the truth even after all of these years. Not much different than JFK's killing.

Got some sources for this?  I wasn't aware of all of this.

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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2008, 09:03:08 AM »
To this date none of the missing pages have been found from JWB's diary.  If this were true and the infomation that proved Stanton's guilt was found, it would have crossed the news media like a prune juice through a baby.  This will never come out even if they were found.  For years the family of JWB have been trying to exhume JWB from his grave to test the DNA and it is always prevented by the goverment.  Some things we may never know like, Area 51, grassy knoll, and Nessy.

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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2009, 06:38:18 PM »
john wilkes booth was obssessed with  killing Abraham lincoln
 
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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2009, 06:54:59 PM »
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Mystery surrounds this diary. The little book was taken off Booth's body by Colonel Everton Conger. He took it to Washington and gave it to Lafayette C. Baker, chief of the War Department's National Detective Police. Baker in turn gave it to Secretary of War Edwin Stanton. The book was not produced as evidence in the 1865 Conspiracy Trial. In 1867 the diary was "re-discovered" in a "forgotten" War Department file with 18 pages missing. Although most sources indicate 18 missing pages the FBI's forensic laboratory has examined the diary and stated that 43 separate sheets are missing. This means that 86 pages are gone.
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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 01:36:36 PM »
:o *** how do you forget a war document about your own country

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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2011, 08:49:02 PM »
Booth missing pages directly quoted at this source:

"The discussions that we had concerning the project he (Jay Cooke) was very concerned with being compromised,..."
-That's from Booth's diary; Booth diary missing pages quoted directly at pp. 190-1 of

http://books.google.com/books?id=wYmvvEeuAi0C&pg=PA184&lpg=PA184&dq=joseph+lynch+hall+sloan&source=bl&ots=C_tcmcGbrQ&sig=z_pDjU4rKDpG8i1rrOhuboTrI1U&hl=en&ei=VPksTaTpE4-asAPhno2aBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=joseph%20lynch%20hall%20sloan&f=false


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Re: Missing pages from John Wilkes Booth's diary
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2011, 11:40:54 PM »
Booth missing pages directly quoted at this source:

"The discussions that we had concerning the project he (Jay Cooke) was very concerned with being compromised,..."
-That's from Booth's diary; Booth diary missing pages quoted directly at pp. 190-1 of

http://books.google.com/books?id=wYmvvEeuAi0C&pg=PA184&lpg=PA184&dq=joseph+lynch+hall+sloan&source=bl&ots=C_tcmcGbrQ&sig=z_pDjU4rKDpG8i1rrOhuboTrI1U&hl=en&ei=VPksTaTpE4-asAPhno2aBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=joseph%20lynch%20hall%20sloan&f=false



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I should point out on p. 196: "...Booth's presence in Washington at the time of Early's attack, the use of the name "Eddie" when referring to Edwin Booth, the alleged meeting between Booth and Morgan in New Orleans, the timing of Booth's decision to kidnap Lincoln, and his attempt to shoot Lincoln on March 22, 1864, when he was actually in New York city, are careless mistakes that point to the missing pages as being fabrications.  The disposition of the real missing pages is unclear."

That book also points to the lack of clarity regarding whether Booth's diary was on him at death, or if it had been brought back to Washington and to Stanton before his death.  It's interesting how stories have emerged regarding the latter, even though it seems more likely that the former is correct.

I did find it interesting that Ray A. Neff was the source of the story that Booth eluded capture and eventually made it to India until his death in 1883(!).
"Already long ago, from when we sold our vote to no man, the People have abdicated our duties; for the People who once upon a time handed out military command, high civil office, legions everything, now restrains itself and anxiously hopes for just two things: bread and circuses" ~Juvenal