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December 22, 2009 at 1:27 am #1846DonaldBakerParticipant
I'm hearing Missouri is being courted along with UConn, Syracuse, Rutgers, and of course Notre Dame. The Big Ten is even considering expanding the league to 14 or even 16 teams. If they go this big, the Big East will be pillaged to its destruction. This will also make the BCS conferences even more exclusive. What do you all think about it (those of you who follow this stuff). ???
December 22, 2009 at 5:45 am #17835scout1067ParticipantNot going to happen. Notre Dame for one, would be extremely stupid to join a conference, all they need is a good coach to get the football program back on track. I cant see Mizzou leaving the Big 12 either, they are also in a slump. The Big Ten may want to expand, but if they do so they need to attract quality teams and those are all in the Big 12 or SEC.
December 22, 2009 at 5:52 am #17836PhidippidesKeymasterI was against the idea of having Penn State join the Big Ten some years ago, because, well, it made it eleven teams (plus they made it more difficult for my team to compete in football >:( ). But the schools in the Big Ten are pretty much midwestern and while Notre Dame may match that, I don't think that Rutgers, UConn, etc. would. That said, I agree with Scout that Notre Dame wouldn't do that. I had heard that the television rights they get make it better for them to remain independent. Really, what would the benefit be for ND to join?
December 22, 2009 at 9:19 am #17837scout1067ParticipantAs it stands right now, ND gets all the rights of a BCS conference team without having to be in a BCS conference. They would be stupid to tie themselves to a conference, especially if they can turn around and actually field a decent ball team. I have been busy this year being grumpy because the Big 8 let 4 teams in and became the Big 12. I also wish my team, OU, would get over their post-season curse. Oh well, we will see on New Year's Eve aginst Stanford. ;D but maybe >:(
December 22, 2009 at 2:35 pm #17838DonaldBakerParticipantThe Big Ten is looking for a championship game like the SEC and ACC have.
December 22, 2009 at 4:39 pm #17839scout1067ParticipantThey are actually better off without one. I am convinced that OU has lost several of their Bowl games because they had to play another punishing game in the Big 12 championships before the bowls. The Conference Championship games disadvantage the teams in those conferences especially if you are a power Conference like the SEC or Big 12. I along with probably every other college football fan would love to see a playoff, I am not holding my breath though. The NCAA said two years ago that the BCS is here through 2013 at the earliest. There is simply too much money in the bowl system for it to die like it needs to.
December 22, 2009 at 8:00 pm #17840DonaldBakerParticipantI'm now hearing rumblings that maybe Boston College and Maryland may leave the ACC for the Big East if openings are made available. It seems BC hasn't fared well in the ACC in terms of travel expenses, and Maryland is tired of not having a more equal voice in conference decisions as opposed to the Carolina bloc (including Clemson) that dictates all things ACC. Central Florida and Memphis are also in the mix for BE spots. Arkansas may jump to the B12 if Mizzou goes B10. What a mess.
December 23, 2009 at 6:53 am #17841scout1067ParticipantWhat a mess indeed. I can see Mizzou jumping the Big 12. They have been kind of stepchildren in the conference and essentially get it handed to them every year. They might look better in another conference but it wont make them a better football team. The Big 12 is a tough conference.
December 23, 2009 at 4:12 pm #17842WallyParticipantJust make them the NFL farm system.
December 23, 2009 at 4:18 pm #17843DonaldBakerParticipantThe BCS is feeling the heat from Congress who is tinkering with the thought of mandating a national playoff system. I don't think anything will come from it, but the BCS cartel is going to move pre-emptively to stop anything. The Big Ten has been down the past few years outside of Ohio State, Penn St., and Wisconsin. They want to elevate their league's relevance going into the last week of the season to take some of the thunder away from the SEC. We are probably going to see 14 and 16 team super conferences before it's over to lock down the BCS spots.
December 23, 2009 at 5:39 pm #17844scout1067ParticipantI don't care how big a football fan a congressman is, they need to stay out of it. There are more pressing things for congress to do than legislate college football playoffs.As for the notion of super conferences, I am not against that. The winners of the conference championships can then have a playoff. That would be fair and unequivocal.
December 23, 2009 at 5:44 pm #17845WallyParticipantJust another circus to add to the list of bread and circuses. 😉
December 23, 2009 at 7:02 pm #17846DonaldBakerParticipantJust another circus to add to the list of bread and circuses. 😉
Ding Ding! We have a winner!
December 25, 2009 at 8:09 am #17847scout1067ParticipantJust another circus to add to the list of bread and circuses. 😉
I agree completely here too.What a sad state America has sunk too, Huh?
January 2, 2010 at 5:34 pm #17848PhidippidesKeymasterWhile traveling last week I read some article about ND possibly joining the Big Ten. I can't remember what the columnist said exactly, but he did answer some of the questions I had about such a move. He said that the Big Ten doesn't have East Coast exposure, where many of the skill players are from. He also basically said that ND needs it just as the Big Ten needs ND; if the Big Ten doesn't get ND, it's not worth getting any of the other teams.
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