Military expeditions in war it would be improper to reckon among official visits abroad. It is right that embassies should be sent to Apollo at Pytho and to Zeus at Olympia, and to Nemea and the Isthmus, to take part in the sacrifices and games in honor of these gods; and it is right also that the ambassadors thus sent should be, so far as is practicable, as numerous, noble and good as possible,--men who will gain for the State a high reputation in the sacred congresses of peace, and confer on it
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Plat.+Laws+12.950eNotice the citation near the bottom:Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vols. 10 & 11 translated by R.G. Bury. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1967 & 1968.Could I use that, then just add the webpage?So it looks something like this:Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vols. 10 & 11 translated by R.G. Bury. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1967 & 1968. http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Plat.+Laws+12.950e
I can't say for sure, but I think that one way it would work would be the following:Plato, Plato in Twelve Volumes, vols. 10 & 11, trans. R.G. Bury (Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1968), (30 January 2009).Adapted in part from:http://www.bedfordstmartins.com/online/cite7.html
Thanks. I'll go with this. There's info about citing translated primary sources in my Turabian manual, but I can't find any mention of citing it from a website.
According to the 15th Edition, Chicago Manual of Style, the citation should look like this:Plato, Plato in Twelve Volumes, vols. 10 & 11, trans. R.G. Bury (Cambridge: Harvard University Press, 1968), Available online at http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Plat.+Laws+12.950e (Accessed 30 January 2009).That is what I got out of Chicago at pp. 684-685 chapter 17-143-17-145I know that AMU wants us to use Turabian but it does not always cover everything. I have gotten in the habit of going to Chicago when Turabian is unclear. The one time I argued with a professor about it, I won because Turabian is based on Chicago and Chicago trumps it.
15th edition?!? I'm still on the 7th and only bought it last year. Thanks scout. Funny how you mention differences. According to the manual I have , date accessed is optional.
Funny…I was just looking in Turabian 7th Edition (published 2007), and it gives an example citation of something taken from that same perseus.tufts.edu site that you are using in your work (on page 194):Pliny the Elder, The Natural History, ed. John Bostock and H. T. Riley, in the Perseus Digital Library, http://perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Plin.+Nat.+1.dedication (accessed March 31, 2006).The bibliography is different - just the "Perseus Digital Library" name and the url. As you can see in the example provided, certain items are omitted, such as publisher, publication date, etc.
I guess one would have to realize Perseus is considered an online database, which I didn't. I was looking at the Classical sections on pages 189 and 254 instead.BTW, is a digital library considered an online database?
I think a database, loosely defined, is must a collection of data arranged in some logical fashion. So yes, an online digital library would be considered a database of books.
I too, have the 7th Edition of Turabian, which was published last year. I was referencing the Chicago Manual of Style which is in it's 15th Edition. The 16th edition is supposed to be released sometime this year. I have both because Turabian doesnt cover everything and Chicago has a much more exhaustive set of examples. I generally use Turabian for Formatting and Chicago for citing.