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April 1, 2010 at 9:31 pm #19926
willyD
ParticipantQuote from: willyD on Today at 02:19:16 PMWe had different teachers--mine were Jesuits which may be a factor.I don't see the relevance....?Have you had Jesuit instructors?
April 1, 2010 at 9:34 pm #19927Phidippides
KeymasterHave you had Jesuit instructors?
I guess not.
April 1, 2010 at 9:41 pm #19928willyD
ParticipantJust what people do you trust–some, all?The majority that elected Obama? The fifty percent that believe in a geocentric universe?
April 1, 2010 at 9:53 pm #19929DonaldBaker
ParticipantJust what people do you trust--some, all?The majority that elected Obama? The fifty percent that believe in a geocentric universe?
I trust them more than I trust myself.
April 1, 2010 at 11:14 pm #19930willyD
ParticipantWell then–as they elected Obama overwhelmingly, your 'trust” must be glowing with a hard gem like flame.
April 1, 2010 at 11:34 pm #19931DonaldBaker
ParticipantWell then--as they elected Obama overwhelmingly, your 'trust" must be glowing with a hard gem like flame.
I trust them, it's A.C.O.R.N. that I don't trust.
April 2, 2010 at 12:40 am #19932willyD
ParticipantAcorn means nothing to me–no rodents here.
April 2, 2010 at 12:41 am #19933DonaldBaker
ParticipantAcorn means nothing to me--no rodents here.
Most vermin scatter when the lights come on.
April 2, 2010 at 12:42 am #19934willyD
ParticipantOOPS!My diapers are fouled!
April 2, 2010 at 1:19 am #19935willyD
ParticipantCarry it one step further–if the people decide to create a European Welfare State based on socialistic economics and democratic politics then according to you we should trust them even if they constitute only 51 percent of those approving. Is not democracy defined by some as majority rule?
April 2, 2010 at 3:25 am #19936DonaldBaker
ParticipantCarry it one step further--if the people decide to create a European Welfare State based on socialistic economics and democratic politics then according to you we should trust them even if they constitute only 51 percent of those approving. Is not democracy defined by some as majority rule?
Yes we should trust them. Common sense will prevail at the end of the day. Obama and his Deathcare is just a fad, something that will pass into the night once everyone realizes they have been hoodwinked by a demagogue. In the meantime, it is good that the people experience their mistake first hand, so they won't be so quick to make the same mistake again.
April 2, 2010 at 4:17 am #19937willyD
ParticipantTrust the people. The statement evokes two responses:1.. What a scary thought--the mob2. How democratic--the majorityLet us see how it plays out.
April 2, 2010 at 2:48 pm #19938DonaldBaker
ParticipantTrust the people. The statement evokes two responses:1.. What a scary thought--the mob2. How democratic--the majorityLet us see how it plays out.
It's very simple. Liberals are elitists who think the average American citizen is part of the mindless "mob" as you say, and believe them too stupid to govern. Conservatives, on the other hand, see the average American citizen as "We The People" and angle their ideology toward preserving the rights and power of the people. I trust the American people with their money, their vote, and their vision for the American dream. I don't trust the government with our money, our votes, and our vision for the American dream. See the difference?
April 2, 2010 at 3:29 pm #19939Wally
Participant.... Liberals are elitists who think the average American citizen is part of the mindless "mob" as you say, and believe them too stupid to govern. Conservatives, on the other hand, see the average American citizen as "We The People" and angle their ideology toward preserving the rights and power of the people. I trust the American people with their money, their vote, and their vision for the American dream. I don't trust the government with our money, our votes, and our vision for the American dream. See the difference?
Interesting to me that each of us, in our little box, sees the rest of the folks like we think we are... unless they profess to be in the other little box... except for select acquaintances that aren't typical of the other little box (whatever that may be).This gentlemen (and ladies if present), is a form of stereotyping; judging a group by select members or judging individuals by the group they happen to belong to.Looking at an individual presents us with certain cues about them based on their behaviors and values. The tricky part is that values are 90% of what a person is about and they aren't readily visible... can't see thoughts or feelings. Behaviors on the other hand are in-your-face so to speak, but only make up 10% of ones personal culture.Doesn't matter what a politico (side of aisle be damned) says, how does he / she vote? I could go on with a long and boring story to illustrate the concept but.... 8)
April 2, 2010 at 4:53 pm #19940willyD
ParticipantWAIT!!!!What if the government is Conservative? Does that reverse your view?
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