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July 18, 2008 at 9:29 pm #1180
Phidippides
KeymasterOn this date in 1984 the killing spree of 21 individuals by a gunman occurred in a California McDonalds. You may remember the event. Here's a summary of what happened:On this Day: 21 Die in McDonald?s Massacre
July 19, 2008 at 11:43 pm #12451quikdraw67
ParticipantAnother loser POS whose actions began the infrigement on “assault rifles” owners rights >:(
July 31, 2008 at 6:50 am #12452History Farts
Participant1984? I had a gun then, and if allowed to carry it legally, could have eaten a lot hamburgers for free. Kidding! One armed citizen can make a difference, maybe dying in the process. Any citizen unwilling to bear arms is not a citizen. Any citizen who fails to protect those about him is not a citizen, but a worthless worm, more afraid for himself than others. Harsh words these are, but stand up and fight, or just go throw up in the gutter. Angered by criminals, citizens get more angry, but unless armed, are helples.This will probably get kicked of this forum, also --- but, I advocate the carrying of concealed weapons by trained legal citizens. And this group (trained legal citizens) outweighs outlaws by such a margin that I would say - look outlaw - I have a gun too. This is by far the best and cheapest crime deterent - any idiot that argues otherwise is just that - otherwise.
August 3, 2008 at 3:09 pm #12453Wally
ParticipantAgreed; 100%!
August 4, 2008 at 6:24 pm #12454Vulture6
ParticipantAny citizen unwilling to bear arms is not a citizen.
While I agree with much of what you say philosophically (I say as one who possesses a concealed carry permit), the argument that a refusal to bear arms should deny citizenship is better suited for a citizenry not founded on the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
August 4, 2008 at 9:28 pm #12455BensGal
ParticipantAny citizen unwilling to bear arms is not a citizen.
While I agree with much of what you say philosophically (I say as one who possesses a concealed carry permit), the argument that a refusal to bear arms should deny citizenship is better suited for a citizenry not founded on the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Thank you for this comment as I've been biting my tongue or better yet, sitting on my hands so I wouldn't type a similar reply.
August 4, 2008 at 9:37 pm #12456Wally
Participant+1. The right to do something does not mandate that we do, only that we have the right to do it if we choose.
July 22, 2009 at 7:25 pm #12457Phidippides
KeymasterThey think that a substance from where the killer worked may have affected his brain functioning. But I did not know this:
In 1986, Huberty?s wife, Etna, unsuccessfully tried to sue her husband?s former employer, Babcock & Wilcox, for $5 million, alleging that metal poisoning from his welding job was to blame for his behavior.She also filed a lawsuit against McDonald?s, charging that chemicals in the McNuggets that James consumed shortly before the incident had caused him uncontrollable delusions. This, too, was unsuccessful.
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