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A part of the answer can be found through the change, I should say the revolution, made by Kemal Atat?rk: admirer of the Age of Enlightenment, he sought to transform the former Ottoman Empire into a modern, democratic, and secular nation-state. The latter being the most crucial point, religion is by definition a brake for evolution therefore something to keep under control. A parallel with Western history can be made (Anglicanism, Reformation, French Revolution, separation of powers).
The Ottoman's were known as the sick man of Europe long before Kemal Ataturk and gang came on the scene. Ataturk just provided the coup de grace to an ailing patient.
religion is by definition a brake for evolution therefore something to keep under control. A parallel with Western history can be made (Anglicanism, Reformation, French Revolution, separation of powers).
Why so anti-religion? Look at the increasingly secular USA now. In the past 30 or so years we see an increase in violence, immorality, crime, drug use, etc. Maybe there's a parallel between moving away from religion and societal collapse? Just stating an observation.
In the past 30 or so years we see an increase in violence, immorality, crime, drug use, etc. Maybe there's a parallel between moving away from religion and societal collapse? Just stating an observation.
I live in a very religious/pious/etc. country. I can say immorality and crime have little to do with secularity.It's just human nature.
That's because humans, by nature, are secular. The rise of Leftism, gay rights, Islam/new age religious tolerance, etc. are all a result of a society moving away from God and biblical principles. It is much worse now than even as recently as the 70s. Gays getting married in the 70s was unheard of. Now, one is labelled a bigotted extremist or homophobe if you are against it.But that's secularism for ya! Calling good evil and evil good. And it's only getting worse (as the Bible has accurately prohesied).
No, but the early US is a good example of a country based on biblical principles. 🙂
I'd like to make clear that I'm not against any religion but more about a kind of clergy; biblical or other religious principles are not the problem. Principles are vital in any society, not the people who are trying to rule their alter ego.
That's because humans, by nature, are secular. The rise of Leftism, gay rights, Islam/new age religious tolerance, etc. are all a result of a society moving away from God and biblical principles. It is much worse now than even as recently as the 70s. Gays getting married in the 70s was unheard of. Now, one is labelled a bigotted extremist or homophobe if you are against it.But that's secularism for ya! Calling good evil and evil good. And it's only getting worse (as the Bible has accurately prohesied).
Rights for minorities and religious tolerance are result of progress of civilisation.Take a look - Where religious tolerance and rights for minorities don't exist?China, North Corea... very pious countries. Iran... another example of religious country.
Did you just claim that China and North Korea are pious countries? Both are secular communist dictatorships that actively persecute people of religious belief. Why would you even think they are very religious countries? I will give you Iran; you are spot on there, though some would argue that Islam is not so much a religion as a political ideology masquerading as a religion.
Did you just claim that China and North Korea are pious countries? Both are secular communist dictatorships that actively persecute people of religious belief. Why would you even think they are very religious countries? I will give you Iran; you are spot on there, though some would argue that Islam is not so much a religion as a political ideology masquerading as a religion.
That was irony, man.
Then maybe put an irony smiley up. 😉 I have seen people make claims similar to that in all seriousness.
Where a religion is not supreme, -isms replace them with dogma. No God to worship, no big deal. There's always the cult of the personality.Our country was indeed founded on general Judeo-Christian (biblical) principles along with influences by Locke and others, but never a dogmatic theocracy.
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