This is and will continue to be a crisis in American higher education: students owing tens of thousands of dollars from student loans, especially those trying to enter a workforce where jobs are scare and/or do not pay well. This is even more of a problem for humanities majors. One study indicates there may be a problem with disclosure and information sharing:
A whole 20 percent were taken off-guard by the size of their monthly payments. Another 20 percent were surprised by their repayment terms. About 15 percent hadn't fully anticipated the interest rate they would be paying. Although more than 3,500 graduates took out both federal loans and private bank loans, almost two-thirds said they didn't now the difference between the two (hint: private loans tend to be a lot more expensive to pay off).
The 1% of the Student Debt Crisis: Owing $150,000 in LoansI think the role of universities in this whole matter needs to be scrutinized. The number of college administrators has grown over the years, which leads to a need for more income for those institutions to pay salaries. It is not in the best interest of such colleges to turn away students, or to scare them away with horror stories about student debt. Perhaps some schools are vigilant when it comes to full disclosure, but I am guessing many are not.It's time for schools to be upfront with students about potential debt incurred, and about the difficulty involved in repaying loans. It's also time for schools to cut costs, especially by eliminating needless positions and political-based academic programs (e.g. women's studies, black studies, etc.).
I have been reading a lot lately about how student debt is going to be the next crisis to hit American finance. I can believe it too. I cannot imagine coming out of school right now with a mountain of debt and anemic job prospects at best. Why wouldn't kids just walk away from there debt, they have been seeing there parents or friends parents do that with mortgages for the past four+years? I actually think the student debt crash may be worse than the housing crash because the bank can't repo an education.I also wonder if student debt was repackaged and sold overseas like mortgages were, I haven't read anything about that but it would not surprise me if they had been.
That would put the universities in line with the demonized banks in enticing people into buying things they can't afford.
I have thought that for years anyway. I just don't see how $300-500 per CH prices are justified in the first place. Universities are just as much about making money as any corporation, at least the For-profit schools are up front about it.
Here's something else to think about. In the university where I teach as a grad student, my classes average probably 80-100 students. I don't know how much the tuition is for the class but even it it's $1000/semester, so I'm bringing in $80,000-$100,000 per semester for the university. My take is a small fraction of that. I've kind of wondered where the rest of the money goes.
Here's something else to think about. In the university where I teach as a grad student, my classes average probably 80-100 students. I don't know how much the tuition is for the class but even it it's $1000/semester, so I'm bringing in $80,000-$100,000 per semester for the university. My take is a small fraction of that. I've kind of wondered where the rest of the money goes.
That new stadium or Arena, Tenured professors, conference attendance, and probably a huge chunk for administrative personnel. My big question is value. As in, Am I getting value for my money in that with a degree I can get a good job? I don't necessarily think that is the case given the reported numbers of jobless college grads, though that is reportedly getting better.. The army, and you, ;D spent just under $40k for my BA and MA and I can't get a decent job. Part of that, hell probably most, is my choice of major. However, I know several friends and relatives with degrees in practical disciplines such as engineering or science that are finding the job search equally if not more difficult than me. I at least have plenty of practical experience to lay on the table. I simply don't think there is as much value in a BA or BS when the job prospects are better for someone with trade school or practical experience. I get the feeling that most people want a degree for its perceived prestige more than any practical benefit they gain from it.
Well, college students from around the country delivered 130,000 letters to Congress on Tues. The letters all ask Congress to act before student loan rates increase on July 1. President Obama has been urging Congress to not let the rates rise. Affordable eduction, he argues, is necessary if we wish to have an informed, capable work force in the future. The current lower rate is a result of 2007 Democrat-supported regulation that is due to expire. Republicans in Congress say the move is too costly. Democrats say it is only fair. Actually, student loan is somehow attractive for many reasons. That is why it is a great business for debt collectors and investors. Student loans cannot be discharged in bankruptcy. The debt can also be be paid for with wage garnishments and other forced payments that are simply not available for most other types of debt. Source of article: Undergrads rally in D.C. to protest student loan hikes.
Okay, hot button issue for me. A few things to consider:1. Schools do not control how much a student takes out in student loans. The amount of the loan can cover tuition, fees, books, and living expenses. So a student going to school with, let’s say, $30,000 in tuition, $8000 in books, $3000 in fees, $20,000 in room & board ($61,000) can take out loans in excess of $100,000. 2. The federal student loan process is broken, to say the least. We, as a society, encourage students to go into debt to go to school by making financial aid easier and easier to get. The unintended result is what is becoming known as the “Bennett Hypothesis” – public schools lose state tax funding, so they raise tuition rates and fees, federal student aid covers the increase, so budgets are met, and excess funds are fed back into the university. Since all excess funds are poured back into the university, and state tax supported funds are not increased, tuition and fees are increased again, federal student aid makes up the difference, and again, schools meet budgets, pouring excess funds back into the school. It’s a vicious cycle that brings in more tuition revenue that is used less and less in actually educating the student.3. For state schools, it is a mix of tuition and fee increases (covered by federal student aid) and increasing the number of out-of-state students who pay higher rates (which again is covered by federal student aid). (See where this is going?)4. I think that it is also the result of the stigma associated with higher education – yes, stigma. Students are pushed into schools they cannot afford, and are taught that it is okay (if not expected) to go into debt to go to school. Students are encouraged to attend the best school that they can get into – without regard to what it costs, and are then deemed to have “settled” if they have the temerity to actually attend a “lesser” school that they (or their parents) can actually afford.5. Higher education is an investment in our (and our children’s) futures, but how much have we failed if we still have people going into debt not knowing the terms of their loans or how it will be repaid?I think that the matter is further complicated by the growing perception that the purpose of going to college is to get a job. More and more, students and their parents seem to believe that a college degree should be come with a guarantee of a job – and likewise, it seems that more and more, employers are expecting colleges to train graduates for a particular job. This is quite a paradigm shift from what I remember – which is for a college to provide an education and produce well rounded citizens who are capable of learning, researching, and making well informed decision. When I hear someone ask, “If I get a degree ____, will it get me job as a ____?” My reply is always a simple and emphatic “No.” A college degree will not get you a job, that’s not what it is designed to do – just like a new suit won’t get you a job. A college degree may help you get a job, but it is the full package of “YOU” that the company is hiring – what else do you bring to the table other than this degree?I think the issue is that people are seeking a college degree as some sort of panacea, when instead they should be seeking a college education.Sorry, I think my “old fogey” is showing.