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September 1, 2010 at 6:52 am #2366
Phidippides
KeymasterIf you could pick one word that describes the activity that the Greeks took which enabled Greek culture to influence civilizations throughout the Mediterranean, including the Romans, what would it be?
September 1, 2010 at 8:00 am #22190scout1067
ParticipantKnowledge
September 1, 2010 at 10:41 am #22191DonaldBaker
ParticipantPhilosophy
September 1, 2010 at 12:32 pm #22192skiguy
ModeratorColonization
September 1, 2010 at 2:49 pm #22193Phidippides
KeymasterLol…well Ski got the word I was looking for, but they're all good guesses.Here's a map of where Greece established colonies in the Mediterranean (in red). Impressive.http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/AntikeGriechen1.jpg
September 1, 2010 at 4:41 pm #22194Aetheling
ParticipantAnother influence would be Culture, not only knowledge and philosophy but arts as well : architecture, sculpture, pottery, even religion (Rome just took it all) and politics (city-state system, republican democracy and citizenship, etc…)I believe that Western Civilisation roots are more related with Ancient Greece (through Rome's heritage). Hence the exact importance of Egypt about Greece
September 1, 2010 at 5:26 pm #22195arbarnhart
ParticipantDo you know the routes they typically took? Were they comfortable being out of sight of land for days at a time?
September 1, 2010 at 5:51 pm #22196skiguy
Moderator“The Greeks Overseas” by John Boardman is an excellent book about Greek colonization. They were definitely a sea-faring people, so quite comfortable and knowledgable with sea travel, but they weren't really out of sight of land for too many days as they mostly did island hopping.
September 1, 2010 at 6:53 pm #22197arbarnhart
ParticipantYou probably know where I am headed with this as I do have a fascination with pre-Columbian crossings…I am not so much proposing that maybe the Greeks did that as that from early days there was experience with living aboard for days at a time with no land in sight. I think that gets over dramatized in many accounts of Columbus era crossings and sea travel. I think many, if not most, sailors believed there was a far shore when uncharted water went beyond the horizon.
September 1, 2010 at 7:45 pm #22198skiguy
ModeratorThat wouldn't surprise me. I was always curious at that spiral art symbol (forgot the name of it. Phid?) that is found in Egypt, Greece, Ireland, and Mesoamerica. And I do think that the Greeks travelling is a more feasible theory than aliens. 😀
September 1, 2010 at 8:10 pm #22199arbarnhart
ParticipantSome of the best evidence is biological:http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/publications/transcripts/?id=154
September 2, 2010 at 6:22 am #22200Phidippides
KeymasterThat wouldn't surprise me. I was always curious at that spiral art symbol (forgot the name of it. Phid?) that is found in Egypt, Greece, Ireland, and Mesoamerica. And I do think that the Greeks travelling is a more feasible theory than aliens. 😀
Spiral?
September 2, 2010 at 10:10 am #22201skiguy
ModeratorThat wouldn't surprise me. I was always curious at that spiral art symbol (forgot the name of it. Phid?) that is found in Egypt, Greece, Ireland, and Mesoamerica. And I do think that the Greeks travelling is a more feasible theory than aliens. 😀
Spiral?
Like thishttp://www.mythicalireland.com/ancientsites/newgrange/artgallery/newgrange-art-8.jpgThey are also found in Minoan structures as well as Egypt and the Americas.
September 2, 2010 at 12:11 pm #22202arbarnhart
ParticipantI didn't mean to generate too much of a tangent, but my point was that they may have influenced other civilizations by making multi-day sea voyages somewhat routinely. Whether they were influenced by some other civilization in that respect is another question, though.
September 2, 2010 at 12:18 pm #22203Aetheling
ParticipantThat wouldn't surprise me. I was always curious at that spiral art symbol (forgot the name of it. Phid?) that is found in Egypt, Greece, Ireland, and Mesoamerica. And I do think that the Greeks travelling is a more feasible theory than aliens. 😀
Spiral?
Like thishttp://www.mythicalireland.com/ancientsites/newgrange/artgallery/newgrange-art-8.jpgThey are also found in Minoan structures as well as Egypt and the Americas.
Ok but why from the Greeks ?
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