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November gonna change the face of the world (oops I meant galaxy) meanwhile WCF is hibernating (stay connected members ! brb) 🙁
I didn't read all your posts yet but I wonder why you put 18th century Prussia in the Renaissance period ?
I hope I am not a spammer. 😀 Guys with a Masters easily command 6-figure salaries.
Once you got that degree, I hope you won't let your good friends doAn ! P.S. My banq account in Nigeria : 419 8)
“The main thing we learn from history is that we don't learn much from history” Interesting article from a former counter-insurgency officer in Vietnam : lessons learnt long ago have been forgotten.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19634728
What happened between his descendants doesn't diminish Charlemagne's importance therefore Phid initial post.
I don't have any written reference about this but I can show you how important was Charlemagne during the Romanesque period with this detail of the tympanum of Sainte Foy church in Conques (c. 1107) illustrating the Last Judgement with Charlemagne, Saint Peter, the Virgin and Dadonhttp://www.aug.edu/augusta/iconography/conques/tympanum.middle2.html
From what I recall, there was some frowning upon Lord Elgin after he had taken them, and eventually he donated them to the state where they made their way to the British Museum.
Elgin didn't donate them but were purchased by the British government in 1816.
Ski,You're right on many points as well. That kind of debate about cultural property or ownership is, IMO, a kind of eternal controversy. No one will agree.As you mentioned about Egypt and the Arab Spring, as well as for many cultural artefacts around the world, some were looted, destroyed or saved abroad but one can always rightly claim that they are part of their heritage. It's all part of humanity heritage first. Now to decide where that or this must lay, it's all about a "gentleman's agreement".When I mentioned the NAGPRA, I was thinking about the Kennewick Man controversy.
Greec is at best a 2nd world country. I can't for the life of me figure out why they were ever let into the EU, much less the euro. They are about as corrupt as it gets on both a personal and governmental level as we have seen. Tax evasion is the national pastime there.
They've been safe in the British Museum for decades. They should just stay there.
I disagree with both statements because I think the question is not about the "safety" of these objects or the "development" of the country that matters more. I think it's more about matters of cultural property (cf. link) and ownership: - " In the performing arts that problem is relatively easy to solve. Shakespeare might have a special connection with Stratford, and Mozart with Vienna - but we can all 'own' their works in performance anywhere in the world." - " Where do they belong? Is it better or worse to have them scattered through the world? Are they the possession of those who live in the place where they were first made? Or are they the possession of everyone?"http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/greeks/parthenon_debate_01.shtmlEven if Greece is enduring harsh economic and political difficulties, its cultural heritage doesn't seem to be in peril; http://whc.unesco.org/en/statesparties/gr Do you really think that parts of their National treasures would be in danger ?Safe in London ? The sculptures suffered from 19th century pollution until mid-20th century, were damaged by at-the-time cleaning methods scraping away some of the detailed tone of many carvings.I think Elgin marbles restitution is certainly the tip of a wider "never-ending" debate about Art repatriation and cultural property. Not only Elgin marbles but also artefacts in the Louvre Museum, the Metropolitan Museum of Art, etc. Is the NAGPRA as controversial in the USA ?
