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I agree Scout sometimes these items are just so dated the use is indiscernable. The article(very good by the way)says that cognitive, social advancement is marked by items like:
carved objects including musical instruments, personal decorations and figurative art
Modern humans still engage in this cultural activity. I do see this sort of thing as advancement because the antropologist/archeologist is usually comparing neolithic humans to ape-like humans, in which case it does seem advanced. There are some remarkable finds around Kiev, 8-9th century, of the then newly assimilated Russ, Viking tribe, and earthen mounds containing whole funerary arrangements including chieftan, ship, horse, dog, slave and coins minted in Baghdad are remarkably well preserved in blue clay earth. They even found a toilet kit, made of iron. It consists of one metal ring with an ear wax remover, nail clipper and tweezer. Now that is advanced culture!
Excellent choice of word “Gravitas.” Many accounts of ghosts on battlefields, energy caught between worlds. It could be manifest purely in the mind, but that makes it real enough.
Agrippa built a Pantheon in 27 BC then Hadrian demolished the original structure. He remembered Agrippa by having his name engraved on the new building in 127 AD. Very little was written about the Pantheon on the Campus Martius, the dome is a few feet bigger than the dome at St. Peter's and also larger than Christopher Wren's St. Paul's Cathedral. I have not been there. When you visit these places, does it have a sense of age about it? I mean a palpable flavor. I have been in many 18th century buildings and they have a distinctive aire. I wonder if its just my imagination.
Did the Romans see themselves as more advanced than other civilizations? In fact they saw themselves as the epitomy and height of achievement. It is my understanding that gladiators faced death as a metaphorical triumph, the way Rome conquered all people they encountered. If you promoted the greater glory of Rome, you would be embraced. Hadrian would build and rebuild the wall in Britain thinking there must be a way to tame these people, and with all the documentation of Roman occupied Britain, we never know if the wall was effective. I don't think it was, so noone wrote about it.
I'd like to add that if the assimilated Viking lines were converted, in Asia, than Constantine would have been aligning himself with the old world version of “Good Fellas,” #2.ooh, did I say Vikings? I think I meant Barbarians! ;D
I was specifically looking for a –history forum-, I searched those terms. Google had your link but at the time it was buried in the results, page five or something like that. If you search Western Civ., your site comes up first.Its impossible to get away from the fact that current events, especially in times of upheaval, may trump the study of history for pleasure. You have a general discussion page, in my experience this is always a popular board and often ignites the subject of past administrations and so forth. A strong, gen. diss. board, should lead to more specific historical subjects. IMHO
Nancy Pelosi brings her cats to work with her.Politics and Hollywood are officially sleeping together.
Global Warming “models” are imaginary and most forget or will not acknowlege the proof in ice core sampling. This science, sampling, does not serve the political hackers who are and will continue to benefit from fear, all the while buying their own rights to jet all over the country and use many times their alloted emissions quotas, cases in point, Gore & Pelosi.Hasn't anyone told them. that fossils of hippos and crocodiles have been found, in abundance within the Artic Circle? Next stop, Shifting Poles; a man made catastrophe.
[flash=200,200]http://www.victorianweb.org/painting/millais/paintings/newman3.html[/flash]Ah, sorry to be late to respond. Its our dear old friend Sir John Everett Millais."The Vale of Rest" the link has a thoughtful but brief examination of the symbolism.
Is the one overseeing the other, or are they the same person? Is the one digging her own grave? I say this because it seems a bit odd that one would be reclining, sitting on the site of a grave as the other is digging. Also, the one reclining is looking out at us, the viewers, suggesting we too look to our own mortality.
The woman digging is not wearing a Nun's habit. Even when working nuns wore all black depending on which order they belonged to. I would agree that it looks like southern Europe, Italy perhaps.
Two very perceptive takes on Vale. The reason I posted "Vale" was because while researching Herman Melville, who indulged, I would say, in symbolism, I kept running into Sir John. There is a distinct lack of allegory and symbolism in Melville's "Battle Pieces" ; poems about the civil war, "Shiloh: A Requiem" specifically. It is pointed out in Lit. Critism, that there is no allegory to war, thus Melville declines from his usual habits, out of reverence, I contend.The thing about this painting is that some take it quite far, applying a "lesbian" theme here, based on the two rings in the lower right corner. Wedding bands? Is one digging the grave for the other to deposit her vows to Christ? that is- married to Christ no longer. The fact that one looks on while the other works must be significant. It does appear to be Europe, though I doubt that Sir John had a girl/girl fantasy here. Thank you for your comments. 😀
[flash=200,200]http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/03/16/want-to-sell-your-house-youll-need-fingerprints/[/flash]The Pros and Cons of FingerprintingIf you live in Cook County Illinois, and sell your home, you will be fingerprinted starting June 1st. The very idea, the absurdity of billing veterans for service related treatment or general care while in the service, is mind boggling.Or is it? Candidate Obama, declined to visit the troops when he was pretending to be Kennedy in Germany. Open contempt of G.B., China hates us...Mr. George W. Bush said the President deserves his silence and declined to comment on current US crisis. How much longer can he blame Bush? Rush has taken to explaining Obama's behavior with the beginning phrase "because the teleprompter told him to...." Geithner doesn't have a staff, shoddy appointees can not be vetted. Barney Frank is lecturing AIG about not wanting to look at their mistakes! He wants to crucify AIG executives in place of himself and Chris Dodd. Its only been 2 months. :- If I don't laugh, I'll cry.
I know you all must love the ROOKIE diplomacy. 😀 (the most intelligent woman in the world?) We need a Kissenger! You disscussed the dangers of diversity, and it is clearly about Government tagging and bagging citizens. A civilian army, here we go H.R. 5563 "Generations Invigorating Volunteerism and Education Act" introduced 3/10/08 [flash=200,200]http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h5563/show[/flash]Its all here, everything you all have been discussing in the last two weeks, in terms of social changes.I go to a community college and I can tell you for a fact, 'voluteerism' is being endorsed very enthusiastically, by teachers.In exchange for mid-term exams! Some flyers offer money up to $500.00 for twenty hours of "community organization skills training" ;DAre You Afraid??? Be Very Afaid
Congress is taking the money out of my pocket and giving it to others. Is this what the Founding Fathers intended?
It is not what the Founders intended. Franklin argued to make the poor feel uncomfortable in their poverty.
The Federalist Papers, the majority of which was written by Alexander Hamilton, argues that the Bill of Rights was not necessary and even a threat to liberties. Hamilton suggested that if a Bill of Rights had to be included in the Constitution, the Constitution was not doing enough to promote the liberty the American Revolution as fought for and that under the Constitution the government already did not have the power to violate what were considered civil liberties. James Madison, who also contributed to the Federalist papers, noted that a Bill of Rights could never be completed, and that the Bill of Rights was dangerous because a government could use this list as a way of abusing certain liberties that were not listed. The protection of liberty was not merely enforced by being written down but had to be enforced by the people and their government. While advocates of the Bill, such as Jefferson, argued that it could not hard civil liberties, Federalist believed that civil liberties that weren't listed were at risk.
[flash=200,200]http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1287227/the_bill_of_rights_in_historical_context.html[/flash]Noone has a right to a car, or a home or good credit or to redefine marriage.Wally, you need not say more. I always felt so safe, growing up. The US seemed untouched by many of the problems that the rest of the world struggled with. Now, it really matters what you beleive, can't go around ignoring current, multiple upheavals.
