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Participant.... ... probably the only truly original cultures are the ones we don't know about because they were pre-historic. Every culture and civilization borrows form its neighbors and those it comes into contact with, that is the nature of the beast. The truly successful ones are those that take what they need and develop what they cant take and use the combination more efficiently than their neighbors and competitors.....
This seems like a truism to me... nothing new under the sun (unless it happened in the dark of night) 😉
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Participant.... The pineapple company took down a country.
Just as the banana companies almost did in SAm 8)
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ParticipantIf I remember correctly part of it was over who would get to appoint the Bishops… Pope wanted loyalty to himself (and the Church) and Henry wanted the same but his vassals that were Churchly but personally loyal to him.
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ParticipantAs the old story goes, that is why there are so few baby Smurfs… 😮
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ParticipantI'm blue collar, more or less ;D
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ParticipantAll here are too busy covering the gate-crashes at the State Dinner….
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ParticipantThis from the Hoover Archives: http://hoover.archives.gov/info/faq.html#chicken: During the 1928 presidential campaign, did Herbert Hoover really promise "a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage?"The Hoover campaign used a variety of slogans in 1928 including "Vote for Prosperity," "Lest We Forget" (referring to Hoover's World War I relief work), and "Who but Hoover?"Other slogans were introduced by Hoover supporters, often without direct input from Mr. Hoover. The link between Hoover and the phrase "a chicken in every pot" can be traced to a paid advertisement which apparently originated with the Republican National Committee, who inserted it into a number of newspapers during the 1928 campaign. The ad described in detail how the Republican administrations of Harding and Coolidge had "reduced hours and increased earning capacity, silenced discontent, put the proverbial 'chicken in every pot.' And a car in every backyard, to boot." The ad concluded that a vote for Hoover would be a vote for continued prosperity.Hoover did make a variety of optimistic statements during the campaign, such as, "the slogan of progress is changing from the full dinner pail to the full garage," and "given a chance to go forward with the policies of the last eight years, and we shall soon with the help of God be in sight of the day when poverty will be banished from this Nation," but Hoover never promised "a chicken in every pot."Sigh... another icon bites the dust. ::)
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ParticipantSteph,This is a more logical reason (and far less revisionist) than the one I mentioned in my last post, consistent with what I learned in school. While the steam explosion is possible the powder is the simpler and more rational explaination. Sadly we aren't likely to ever get a conclusive answer... smoking gun if you will.
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ParticipantI'm guessing the Canadian Thanksgiving is quite different than American Thanksgiving, right? I didn't even know they had the holiday.
The history of Thanksgiving in Canada goes back to an explorer, Martin Frobisher, who had been trying to find a northern passage to the Pacific Ocean. Frobisher's Thanksgiving was not for harvest but homecoming. He had safely returned from a search for the Northwest Passage, avoiding the later fate of Henry Hudson and Sir John Franklin. In the year 1578, he held a formal ceremony, in what is now the province of Newfoundland and Labrador, to give thanks for surviving the long journey. The feast was one of the first Thanksgiving celebrations by Europeans in North America. Frobisher was later knighted and had an inlet of the Atlantic Ocean in northern Canada named after him ? Frobisher Bay. --from Wikipedia
As for me, I'm glad that Thanksgiving is the fourth Thursday in November, not the third. That would just be too early.
How about the Christmas music that started about Halloween? Retailers are pushing the beginning of the shopping season as hard as they can. Perhaps President Obama will consider a similar idea as a new stimulus?
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ParticipantLight blue is fine by me… easy on my eyes. 8)
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ParticipantI think the immediate issue is the veracity of scientific claims, especially those which are thoroughly mixed with serious political ramifications.
I am guessing that any cooking of the books will get lost in gleeful recriminations from both sides and GW will continue it's steady march except among loonys like me(at least that is the media's discourse about skeptics).
This, of course, is the story in a nutshell; there is some weak science on both sides but seems to me the better science always gets drowned out by the appeal to emotions that bubble around the end of the earth as we know it scenarios of GW. seriously flawed science that scares the crap out of us will always get more attention than the idea things aren't totally out of control and we could have a very positive impact if we tried some things... the things in question aren't the really sexy, green things that Gore et al can use to drive their political agenda (read they are practical and often cheap), so it's fingers in the ears: La, la, la, la....The other point is that what ever we do... any interaction with the natural world has both positive and negative feedbacks. We need to maximize the former while minimizing (or altogether avoiding) the latter. This is why the third theme of geography is interaction... I call it how we play the cards Mother Nature dealt and the results thereof.
November 25, 2009 at 6:21 pm in reply to: Monastic revival in the late 11th-early 12th century #17331Wally
ParticipantI use WASD… Wild Assed Stab in the Dark… ;D
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Participant.... and ... challenged scientifically ! That hacking is a good point: it can lead to a contradictorily debate !
My emphasis... both points are otherwise lost in a science v. religion debate that really isn't the point at all(MHO)
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Participant+1 again….
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ParticipantOh, and this fits in with what has been stated by conservatives for years about how GW is a new "religion", complete with a moral code ("living green"), sins ("producing too much carbon"), indulgences ("buying/selling carbon credits"), prophets/messiahs ("Al Gore"), holy food ("organic food"), and fear of eternal punishment ("the melting of the polar caps and devastation of the earth").
Is it a religion of love? Are they going to kill us to convert us?
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