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July 1, 2006 at 3:20 pm #166
Phidippides
KeymasterDo you think that the Greeks took their religion – what we call “Greek Mythology” today – seriously, or do you think that they considered it to be more of a cute “novelty” or a reality for social cohesion? While someone could easily point to the vast sums spend on temples dedicated to various gods as support for the latter, we see in one of Plato's works (I believe it is in Plato's Phaedo) how easily Socrates dissects the notion of Greek deities. Surely, for a people as civilizationally-advanced as the Greeks, questions about the truth of their religion must have been raised at some points in time. So what do you think?
July 2, 2006 at 5:53 am #5269DonaldBaker
ParticipantDo you think that the Greeks took their religion - what we call "Greek Mythology" today - seriously, or do you think that they considered it to be more of a cute "novelty" or a reality for social cohesion? While someone could easily point to the vast sums spend on temples dedicated to various gods as support for the latter, we see in one of Plato's works (I believe it is in Plato's Phaedo) how easily Socrates dissects the notion of Greek deities. Surely, for a people as civilizationally-advanced as the Greeks, questions about the truth of their religion must have been raised at some points in time. So what do you think?
You raise an excellent point. There were actually two religions in Ancient Greece. There was the religion of the people (most associated with the mythology we have come to cherish) and the religion of the philosophers which flirted with our modern notions of monotheism. The Greeks viewed their religion as a civic institution more than an actual "religion." The festivals and the great animal sacrifices were held to distribute meat to the people and offer men the chance to network among themselves. The rites and rituals observed by the ancient Greeks is known today by historians as civic religion. Ken Dowden's book on the Uses of Greek Religion goes into much detail explaining the nature and structure of the Greek civic religious phenomenon. You should check it out.
July 2, 2006 at 5:55 am #5270DonaldBaker
ParticipantUh, this is weird.? Phid you started this thread, but my post got placed ahead of yours.? Why for?You must have changed the settings to put the newest post first. Duh....... 🙄
July 2, 2006 at 7:38 pm #5271DonaldBaker
ParticipantUh, this is weird. Phid you started this thread, but my post got placed ahead of yours. Why for?You must have changed the settings to put the newest post first. Duh....... 🙄
Uh strike that. I changed my own settings awhile back and forgot. Duh........ 🙄
July 2, 2006 at 8:06 pm #5272Phidippides
KeymasterGlad you got that figured out. Did you also know that in your control panel you can turn on the Quick Reply function?And yeah your explanation sounds good. I would need to learn more about the role of religion in Greek society, as their many expenses and efforts were placed in temples and artwork. In my understanding the myths of the gods were developed to explain the origin of virtues, vices, morals, or perhaps other lessons in life.This brings up another question - how do you think the Greek myths developed? Would guys just be sitting around drinking one day and say, "Hey, how about this one - the kid gets off the island with wings made of feathers and wax!" It seems that there would have to be a conscious decision at one point or another to create these stories.
July 3, 2006 at 6:20 pm #5273DonaldBaker
ParticipantDr. Dowden emphasized the need for epynomous names to sacred sites. By epynomous I mean the place-names being derived from legends and heroes. It's like in the Bible where Jacob makes an altar where he had his dream of the ladder and called that place Peniel “Face of God.” The ancient world valued geographic continuity with folklore, and once a geography is set, the folklore becomes mythologized into sacredness. Once a place becomes sacred, it is incorporated into the civic religion. Examples of this is Pylos, Delphi, and the Areopagus mentioned in Acts. Basically my understanding of Greek Mythology is that its stories began as legends, then places were ascribed to where these legends took place, and then pilgrimages to those sacred places began leading to a full fledged incorporation into the Pantheon.
July 9, 2006 at 8:43 am #5274Stumpfoot
ParticipantSome believe that the 'mythical gods of the greeks' has it's begining with the Nephilim, those born to the angels who took up the flesh when they desended from heaven in Noah's day. In Genesis they are refered to as the 'mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame.'
January 8, 2009 at 9:15 pm #5275skiguy
ModeratorPretty much everything they did, with all the festivals and the Olympic Games, centered on religion. So I say Yes the Greeks took religion very seriously. I think much of the earlier Greek religion was influenced by other people's religions and the Greeks morphed it into their own by adding different gods and even different sexes of the gods. Mother Earth or Gaia (sp) seemed quite prominent in early Greek religion until Zeus and the other 11 major gods were developed.This is an interesting topic. I might be doing my paper on the Oracle at Delphi (where I'll have to follow Apollo's "geneology" for one thing) or on the religious significance of the Olympics. Would really like to do one on the Olympics (integrating sports and religion...how cool is that!) but the sources may not be as user-friendly as the Delphi topic. Plus I think I'll learn more about Greek history, laws, culture, etc. if I do choose Delphi.Sorry to be reviving old topics, but this is just too cool. I feel like an excited little kid learning all this stuff. (I'm also pleasantly surprised at how much one can do with sports history...it goes way further back than Bobby Orr ;D )
January 9, 2009 at 1:19 am #5276DonaldBaker
ParticipantPretty much everything they did, with all the festivals and the Olympic Games, centered on religion. So I say Yes the Greeks took religion very seriously. I think much of the earlier Greek religion was influenced by other people's religions and the Greeks morphed it into their own by adding different gods and even different sexes of the gods. Mother Earth or Gaia (sp) seemed quite prominent in early Greek religion until Zeus and the other 11 major gods were developed.This is an interesting topic. I might be doing my paper on the Oracle at Delphi (where I'll have to follow Apollo's "geneology" for one thing) or on the religious significance of the Olympics. Would really like to do one on the Olympics (integrating sports and religion...how cool is that!) but the sources may not be as user-friendly as the Delphi topic. Plus I think I'll learn more about Greek history, laws, culture, etc. if I do choose Delphi.Sorry to be reviving old topics, but this is just too cool. I feel like an excited little kid learning all this stuff. (I'm also pleasantly surprised at how much one can do with sports history...it goes way further back than Bobby Orr ;D )
Get the Ken Dowden book I recommended. I have it for sale at GAA. 🙂 But if you want me to mail it to you to borrow it, I can do an interlibrary loan. I also have another book solely on Greek religion. Here are the links at GAA:http://www.gunsandall.com/auction_details.php?name=The-Uses-Of-Greek-Mythology&auction_id=109403http://www.gunsandall.com/auction_details.php?name=Religion-In-The-Ancient-Greek-City&auction_id=109431If you want me to mail them, let me know ahead of time so you won't be rushed.
January 9, 2009 at 1:27 am #5277skiguy
ModeratorThanks, Don! I have to go to the library this weekend, so let me check if they have it there first or if my school or Questia has it. The more I'm thinking about it now, the more I might do the Olympics. I'm up for the challenge. 8)
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