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Wally
ParticipantThe item that caught my eye this morning on the front page of the Daily Disappointment was an article about the latest Pew Trust poll about our confidence in the gov't. I found only 6% of responders are less confident in the gov't than I. :oLinks:Respond to the Poll Public Trust thru Time Graphic
scout1067
ParticipantI too find that only 6% trust the government less than I do. Ironic since I work for that government. :-
Wally
ParticipantOr a clue we should be more concerned than we already are? 😀
scout1067
ParticipantNot necessarily, I get the impression that I am one of the more Libertarian types in uniform. I dont serve because of whoever is currently in power. I am one of those idealists that thinks the principals this country was founded on (as I perceieve them) are worth defending. As was pointed out on another thread, I swore an oath to the constitution, not a person. That actually makes the US military unique among militaries, most include a personal oath of some sort to a person be it a president, prime minister, or king.
Wally
Participant… makes the US military unique among militaries, most include a personal oath of some sort to a person be it a president, prime minister, or king.
Why our military is the best as well.
scout1067
Participant… makes the US military unique among militaries, most include a personal oath of some sort to a person be it a president, prime minister, or king.
Why our military is the best as well.
One of the things, there are many other qualities that our military has that many others don't. A very long list indeed, and one that would tend to get technical at times.
Wally
ParticipantIndeed and much the bad guys shouldn't even imagine, much less, hear about. 8)
Notch
ParticipantIndeed and much the bad guys shouldn't even imagine, much less, hear about. 8)
Unfortunately, with the way the world sees things these days and the way our government is caving in to world pressure, more is exposed than hidden. I am an Army veteran and I work at a US Army base in the directorate of training where training is done from basic skills all the way up to senior level officer training. One of the big things is that a LOT of international students are included in the training. Now, while I understand the concept of working together with other nations, I still do not agree with it's application. Call me old school…So, they not only know what we are training but how we apply it. Anyway… don't want to veer OT, but I believe this ties hand in hand with our government. I could go on a long tirade, but let's just say that my confidence over the years continues to dwindle exponentially.
Wally
ParticipantUnderstood and agree.
scout1067
ParticipantI don't have a problem working with allies. They are necessary and they do fight alongside of us, if perhaps not in the numbers we would wish. Most partner nation militaries I have worked with have nothing but admiration for the US military and want to learn as much as possible so that they can have as good an army as we have. Mostly what I think they dont get are the intangibles. They are very good at putting the material things in place but don't do soldier development as well as we do.
willyD
ParticipantScout:What is “soldier development”?
scout1067
ParticipantThis is what I mean, without violating OPSEC. Soldier development is the intangible piece. It is taking a young kid straight out of high school and making him not only a trigger puller but someone who can think as well as pull the trigger. Any idiot can pull the trigger and kill people, it takes smarts and training to get someone to pull the trigger at the right time and kill the right people. That is what the American army is very good at doing.War is no longer ?take that hill? and has not been for a very long time. That does not even begin to touch on the intelligence required just to learn how to operate the equipment a modern soldier is equipped with. I would hazard to guess that the average private today is at least as intelligent and cerebral as Company Commander had to be in WWII. Our soldiers are expected to think on the battlefield, they are not mindless automatons as those on the left would have us believe.Some of our allied armies approach the American level of professionalism and the rest are running hard to get there. We are arguably the best at what we do and everybody except the American left will acknowledge that, and even they probably do so behind closed doors.Despite the stories in the press, we do discriminate targets. I saw a good piece on the front page of Stars and Stripes this morning that pointed out how the Taliban has killed about 3 times as many civilians as the US military but the military killings get all the press.
Wally
ParticipantThis (see attached) from the humor thread of another forum I watch but pretty neat. And I agree with Scout that there are intangibles that our military provides to or brings out in our troops that other countries cannot.
willyD
ParticipantWally:Excellent!WillyD
Wally
ParticipantThanks, but no credit to me… came from a ret'd military officer.
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