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  • May 9, 2014 at 2:17 pm #3781 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    Is it just me or is anyone else totally aggravated/angry/confounded by everything going on in and outside of DC?The satan statue in OK, the black mass at Harvard, the woman who filmed her own abortion, the twins who got their show cancelled before it began because they cited the Bible about homosexuality.  And nevermind Benghazi and the Clinton/Obama lying out their teeth, the mess in Ukraine and all the Arab world cause by Obama's failed foreign policy, the global warming, climate change, climate disruption garbage, the gay gestapo.  Etc., etc., etc.All these things and then some are just totally aggravating me.  I'm trying very hard to find the balance between keeping up with events or just ignoring everything and being happy in blissful ignorance.It's gotten insane out there.  What is wrong with people? What happened to common sense and decency?

    May 9, 2014 at 4:29 pm #29927 Reply
    scout1067
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    What happened to common sense and decency?

    It never existed, the plethora of new media has given even more people a voice and made those same people more strident.  It is also easier to insulate yourself from opposing viewpoints.  I am convinced most people live in an info bubble that constitutes a chorus of agreement with what they think anyway.  (I am not immune)  I also think that that same bubble makes people less tolerant of opposing viewpoints.That, or the world is just crazier than before.  I don't think so, I just think we know more of what is going on.

    May 9, 2014 at 7:37 pm #29928 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    There is more info and reporting out there, but I don't really agree that it's just as crazy now as ever.  I don't ever remember common things being considered “controversial.”  Since when is pro-life or pro-family a controversial viewpoint?  Plus all this PC crap is completely out of control. No one can speak their mind anymore if it disagrees with anything the tolerant “progressives” say.It's much wores now than ever, and having the worst, most divisive president ever in the history of the US sure has added fuel to the leftist fire.Maybe I've just given up or am too thin-skinned for political debate.  But I'm thinking it's more like being in a state of shock.  What certain people say, believe, and do is just astounding.

    May 11, 2014 at 5:23 pm #29929 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    Yeah, it is pretty bad out there.  You just have to hang in there, since eventually things will get better.  Not sure quite when, but they will get better in the end.

    May 12, 2014 at 6:17 am #29930 Reply
    scout1067
    Participant

    I take heart in the thought that eventually the extremists on both sides will spark a civil war.  I don't see how there is any room to even talk to each other from the extremes and it seems the extreme is becoming mainstream thought.  The liberal desire for more government is at odds with the conservative desire for less.  there is no middle ground any more.  The question for me is when will the spark come, not if it will come.

    May 12, 2014 at 2:00 pm #29931 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    and it seems the extreme is becoming mainstream thought.

    It's not seem, they HAVE taken over mainstream thought. 

    May 12, 2014 at 2:16 pm #29932 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    I take heart in the thought that eventually the extremists on both sides will spark a civil war.  I don't see how there is any room to even talk to each other from the extremes and it seems the extreme is becoming mainstream thought.  The liberal desire for more government is at odds with the conservative desire for less.  there is no middle ground any more.  The question for me is when will the spark come, not if it will come.

    To throw another wrench in here….I think the label “extreme” is used to marginalize and mischaracterize at times, and in some respects it has become a political tool in itself.  It's annoying to hear the media label some idea or lifestyle as “extreme”, only for me to think “wait a second, I believe in that as well, and I consider it to be rational/common sense”.  Who, in the end, is the arbiter of “mainstream” and “extreme”?

    May 13, 2014 at 4:44 am #29933 Reply
    scout1067
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    I think each individual decides for themselves what is extreme and what is not.  I hold some extreme views myself on plenty of issues.[font=verdana, arial, helvetica, sans-serif]I actually don't have a problem with extreme views in and of themselves, especially if they are justified by what I call my common sense detector.  I also consider myself willing to compromise to a point.  I am willing to bend my views but not break them in order to reach an agreement.  There are also some issues I just don't see compromise achieving anything on.[/font]For example,  I am willing to concede that maybe forging a path to legitimacy for illegals is a noble goal and in some respects even a good thing to do.  Where I won't bend is that I think if we do that then all people presently illegally in the country should be denied citizenship for the length of their lives.  I see no reason why someone who flouted immigration laws to enter and remain in the country should ever be granted citizenship and the vote.  We can legalize their status and gouge them for taxes but vote, not no, hell no.

    May 13, 2014 at 9:24 am #29934 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    That's not an extremist view of immigration, that's just a view/opinion. Being against the Supreme Court decision allowing prayer before government meetings is not extremism, but the idiot who wants to open with a prayer to Satan is. 

    May 13, 2014 at 3:19 pm #29935 Reply
    donroc
    Participant

    And now atheists in the military want an atheist chaplain. Oxymoron for morons.

    May 14, 2014 at 5:21 am #29936 Reply
    scout1067
    Participant

    I am a firm believer that America is in decline.  A reversible decline but a decline nonetheless.  The fact that politically we are split so evenly does not help things in the slightest.  Right now the fact is that nothing will get down because neither side can agree on anything effective.  Everything that might be effective is vetoed by one side or the other.  What exists right now in the US is a recipe for Civil War.  If we do have a Civil War, expect foreign intervention.  I don't think it is too far-fetched to imagine Chinese troops on the West Coast and Europeans on the East in the case of a Civil War.  If nothing else foreign powers can always claim they want to intervene to keep our nuke stockpile secure, it worked in Iraq, Libya, and Syria as an excuse right?

    May 14, 2014 at 2:12 pm #29937 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    Right now the fact is that nothing will get down because neither side can agree on anything effective.  Everything that might be effective is vetoed by one side or the other.

    Is that what you really believe is the problem, though?  I am of the opinion that a nation slowed down by leaders who can't get anything done is better than a nation which is on cruise control down a course of destruction.  I think the real problem is that the Democrats are so wacky in their ideas that they weigh down our government and society.  While the Republicans are not polar opposites in this regard – their ideas are hardly perfect – they are at least closer to the mark.  So I am happy when the Republicans veto bad ideas offered by the Democrats, even if some claim this is an example of government which doesn't get anything done.

    May 15, 2014 at 4:08 am #29938 Reply
    scout1067
    Participant

    What I would really like to see is some solid common sense things get done.  That won't happen because any such ideas get piled on by both sides.  Instead what happens is tinkering around the edges.  We are still on cruise control, the difference is that nothing is getting fixed. It is not that dems or reps have wacky idea it is that the wacky ideas of the past are on cruise control and those are the problems overwhelming the country.The number one problem the country has right now is spending yet nothing is seriously getting done because neither side will really touch the problem.  Entitlement spending is out of control and if we do nothing we will go under.  We are doing nothing.  All the fighting about cultural issues mean nothing if the budget crashes the country.  It is like we are arguing about what color the drapes should be while the house is burning down round us.

    May 15, 2014 at 2:09 pm #29939 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    What, exactly, are “common sense things” that government should address?  This is the problem, IMO.  Today, common sense things are the things around the edges.  The big things, such as spending and taxation, are major areas of contention and therefore not agreed upon easily.  And I don't think the “wacky” ideas are only in the past.  We can blame figures such as FDR or LBJ for initiating certain policies, but at least they did not have the knowledge of the actual fruit their ideas would bear.  Today's liberals do see the fruit of leftist ideas – everything from the growth of the entitlement state, to failing schools, to the sexual revolution and today's broken homes – and they still keep at it.  Every generation makes its own choices and contributes to its own well-being.

    May 15, 2014 at 9:45 pm #29940 Reply
    skiguy
    Moderator

    Cultural issues are just as important because it's all connected. The “pro”gressives live in a fantasy world that goes against every traditional societal, economic, and political norm.  When one breaks, they find a scapegoat instead of blaming themselves for their failures.  When their economic policies fail, they try to “fix” it by blaming it on the oppression of whatever victim group is the flavor of the day and come up with some other nonsensical solution that won't work.  Unfortunately many of their views, expecially these past two decades, have taken hold of society.  The educational system brainwashes the younger generation and that keeps the downward spiral going.

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