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October 3, 2007 at 7:01 am #873
jlmingj
ParticipantSeeing all the unrest and the turmoil in our world today, one cannot help but question- where will all this lead to?
October 4, 2007 at 1:23 am #9921Wally
ParticipantSeeing all the unrest and the turmoil in our world today, one cannot help but question- where will all this lead to?
Check out Generations by Strauss and Howe... they would call this an unraveling... we could be headed for war or not, depends on how the leaders handle it.
October 4, 2007 at 1:33 am #9922skiguy
ModeratorOnce all the neocons are silenced or removed from the U.S. government, we'll be on safer ground. JMHOIn the recent past, I always thought the Global War on Terror (aka The Long War) was WWIII. I don't think that anymore.If or when China gets more involved militarily, ask me again. 😮
October 4, 2007 at 3:02 am #9923DonaldBaker
ParticipantI am with Newt Gingrinch on this one. He says we are in the first stages or a Phoney War leading up to the real shooting war. Iran will be the trigger IMHO.
October 4, 2007 at 3:17 am #9924Wally
ParticipantThis would fit the bill of an unraveling….
October 4, 2007 at 4:51 am #992519XX!
ParticipantI am with Newt Gingrinch on this one. He says we are in the first stages or a Phoney War leading up to the real shooting war. Iran will be the trigger IMHO.
It would seem, that with all the Bush/Cheney war rhetoric and drum beating towards Iran, that the US might be the trigger. If history shows us anything, then we should collectively recognize the pattern of case building for an attack. Just look at the lead up to attacking Iraq. The signs are there.
October 4, 2007 at 9:01 am #9926skiguy
ModeratorThe signs are there.
That's true, but there are a lot more military people now in a position of power who aren't afraid anymore to speak up against Cheney's warmongering. CENTCOM commander Adm Fallon is one. He advised against sending more aircraft carriers to the Persian Gulf.
October 5, 2007 at 12:26 am #992719XX!
ParticipantThe signs are there.
That's true, but there are a lot more military people now in a position of power who aren't afraid anymore to speak up against Cheney's warmongering. CENTCOM commander Adm Fallon is one. He advised against sending more aircraft carriers to the Persian Gulf.
There is opposition to attacking Iran everywhere you look. So far it looks like that might have tempered the administration down to trying to sale surgical bombing of certain sites. What does it matter if we all out attack the country or take out a limited number of targets. Its still an act of aggression that can only have one outcome. Escalation. What does that escalation lead to? Nothing good.
October 5, 2007 at 11:34 am #9928skiguy
ModeratorWhat does it matter if we all out attack the country or take out a limited number of targets. Its still an act of aggression that can only have one outcome. Escalation. What does that escalation lead to? Nothing good.
Well, it would matter a lot, IMO. One is an act of aggression (full scale bombing campaign or invasion) and one is an act of self-defense. However it's done, it needs to be done aggressively by following through. I don't think precision bombing will escalate into full scale war. If anything, it will will prevent a full war and promote regional stability. Iraq is a big key in all this...I wish people would realize that. :- We (the U.S) may not even have to take any miltary action against Iran at all.
October 7, 2007 at 11:23 pm #9929Wally
ParticipantA surgical strike worked in Libya.
October 8, 2007 at 4:57 am #993019XX!
ParticipantWell, it would matter a lot, IMO. One is an act of aggression (full scale bombing campaign or invasion) and one is an act of self-defense. However it's done, it needs to be done aggressively by following through. I don't think precision bombing will escalate into full scale war. If anything, it will will prevent a full war and promote regional stability. Iraq is a big key in all this...I wish people would realize that. :- We (the U.S) may not even have to take any miltary action against Iran at all.
Neither a full attack nor a limited bombing is an act of self defense. They are both acts of aggression. Both with negative results. You take shots at a country, destroying infrastructure and likely causing deaths, and you now have an enemy that wants revenge. And will plot to get that revenge. In the case of Iran, there is growing popular support against the leadership of Ahmadinejad. A bombing campaign will only make him stronger.
October 8, 2007 at 10:24 am #9931skiguy
ModeratorI don't disagree with you. There's an election coming up in Iran in 2009. Hopefully everyone will be patient enough to wait and see what happens. As far as economic sanctions, the ones suffering from those are the citizens of Iran.
June 22, 2008 at 4:03 pm #9932green8659
ParticipantIt has been said that the WWIII is coming for years. While I have no doubt there will be another I don't think it will be anytime soon. I'm not arguing that Iran won't become an issue much like Iraq but I don't think it will trigger world level involvement. IMO.
June 22, 2008 at 10:09 pm #9933scout1067
ParticipantThere's an election coming up in Iran in 2009. Hopefully everyone will be patient enough to wait and see what happens.
I guess you are assuming that the elections in Iran will be free and fair. How about the last go-round when wll the moderate Iranian candidates were barred from standing for election because it was known they would win?
June 22, 2008 at 10:12 pm #9934scout1067
ParticipantThere may be a WW III in the future, but if you accept the reckoning of some historians, WW II was actually WW VII so we should be talking about WW VIII. WW III or whatever, is a ways off. What is the competeing power block opposed to the US and the West that can realitistcally challenge the global supremacy of the West? It is certainly not Islamic Jihadism, which a self-defeating doctrine anyway.
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