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September 7, 2009 at 7:57 pm #1717
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Moderatorauthor: Thomas Cahill (who also wrote “How the Irish Saved Civilization”)I'm never good at determining if a book is good for those who've had a course in Ancient Greek history. To me it was well-written and clear enough for most to understand. Cahill starts the book with how the Greeks colonized and how they fought in war. These first two chapters were like a commentary on the Homeric epics, with other primary sources mixed in and I liked that a lot. Much of the writing on warfare was somewhat simplistic and he focused mainly on Athens and Sparta while ignoring Corinth, Thebes, and the other poleis involved (could have spent more time on Sparta too, but oh well). A big criticism I have is the chapter on philosophy. The author spent, I think, way too much time on homosexuality and other vices. There is so much more on philosophy that could have been mentioned besides Plato's writing on partying and Sapphos. Would like to have seen more time spent on other Greek philosophers and philosophical topics. Other than a few pages on ethics, Aristotle was basically ignored. I was curious how he was going to wrap it all up and explain why the Greeks matter. He went in the direction that it wasn't just the Greeks, but Greco-Roman/Judeo-Christian influence, which is correct, but he should have kept more focus on the Greeks.Although this probably won't be one of the best books I'll be reading on Ancient Greece, it was good enough. Because it didn't go into much depth, it would be best for high school or beginner students or those who have a passing interest in Ancient Greece. Looking forward to reading more in depth books like Hanson and Kagan's books on the Pelopponesian War.
September 7, 2009 at 10:08 pm #16478Wally
ParticipantNot his best work IMHO but the idea that it is the sum of the parts that result in Wester Civ or at least that end of it seems okay. Liked How the Irish… much better.
October 16, 2010 at 3:30 am #16479patricia39
ParticipantThis book was my first exposure to Thomas Cahill but I was not disappointed when I start and finish reading it. Sailing the Wine Dark Sea is an enjoyable overview of how ancient Greece shaped the conceptual paradigms which still guide Western society today.
October 16, 2010 at 8:44 pm #16480DonaldBaker
ParticipantThis book was my first exposure to Thomas Cahill but I was not disappointed when I start and finish reading it. Sailing the Wine Dark Sea is an enjoyable overview of how ancient Greece shaped the conceptual paradigms which still guide Western society today.
What "conceptual paradigms" are you specifically referring to? And are you sure we are still being guided by them? Welcome to the forum by the way. 🙂
October 17, 2010 at 5:51 am #16481Phidippides
KeymasterWhat “conceptual paradigms” are you specifically referring to? And are you sure we are still being guided by them? Welcome to the forum by the way. 🙂
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October 17, 2010 at 4:15 pm #16482DonaldBaker
ParticipantWhat "conceptual paradigms" are you specifically referring to? And are you sure we are still being guided by them? Welcome to the forum by the way. 🙂
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You know I never even checked her profile. She seemed legit in her response.
October 17, 2010 at 8:58 pm #16483Phidippides
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