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Bulgarian people, the forgotten savior of Europe.
This is a fact, not a fiction. The proof: Bulgarian people created 3 big and powerful states in Europe. Old Greate Bulgaria, Volga Bulgaria and Danube Bulgaria. The last exists today, but it is very little now.
The location of today Bulgaria is the southern part of Europe ? Balkan penincula, more exactly ? the northern border of Greece. To be created three big and powerful states in Europe is necessarily to have strong traditions. Especially, when this states are created, just in the beginning of A.D., then in the continent existed, like a state, only Roman empire. In 165 year A.D. was created Old Great Bulgaria. In 7 century A.D. this state was demolished and from it were created the other two mentioned states. Only this fact is very important for developing of the statecraft in Europe, which is very important one day the continent to be guarded of the asian invaders.
This is THE FIRST what Bulgarian people does for Europe. The details : In 8 century A.D. Europe was threatened from Arabians. Bulgarian ruler- khan Tervel helped Bizantium empire against Arabians and his help turned out decisive one for saving the continent. Then khan Tervel is called ?the saver of Europe?. Now who knows that, in spite of the specialists. Danube Bulgaria was between two empires ? Francs and Bizantium. 2 centuries Bulgaria managed to resisted and bewildered the plans of the empires. This two empires, together, coud possessed the continent and then Europe would be like USA. One unification country. Now we have many culturies in Europe and this is our wealh. The biggest state in the world, now-Russia debts its headway of Volga Bulgaria. Many Russian inteligents from 19 century, like Turgenev, Dostoevski and others are from bulgarin origrn.
In 10 century A.D. from Danube Bulgaria went one powerful antireligious movment ? bogomili-which strongly shaked the Christian religion and provided the road of European revivals. Especially grateful to Bulgarians has to be Slavonic world. Because from Danube Bulgaria, oldbulgarin literature was spreaded to whole Slavonic world in slav language and many states debt theyr devolpment thanks to Bulgarians. If Danube Bulgaria woud not be, many peoples like Serbians woud not be, because Bizantium was begun assimilation by Christianity. Bulgarians give a big material culture to europeans.
The Bulgarian calendar is known.
This are facts, which provide for Bulgarians a big respect, but Europeans do not know, even, who are Bulgarians and where they live.What shame! Who are Bulgarians? They are Indo-Europeans and from the white race. But they are not Slavonic people. Their origin is the Bulgarian one. The proof is their language, especially the grammer in spite of the big quantity of slav words. The anthropology is Bulgarian, not Slavonic. The Bulgarians are Thracians with big slav influence in their language, but the grammer is Thracian one and there are many thracian words, which exist together with the slavonic words.
The Bulgarians are very ancient people, like Egyptians.
The proof is the fact, that their name exists in the most ancient legends and chronices. But egyptians are dead, and Bulgarians are alive.Their state is Bulgaria with the capital ? Sofia. Southern Europe, Balkan penincula, a neighbour of Greece. Now the standart of living in Bulgaria is bad. Bulgarian people is small now, according to the past, when Bulgaria was that what is Germany for Europe, now. Why? Because before 11 centuries, in 9 century A.D. on Bulgarian people was imposed with many blood the Christianity. Bulgarian people had own state system, very different from the Christianity system and from this 9 century to the nowadays Bulgarians are separated from their country. This blood separation is Bulgarian tragedy. From this not only Bulgarians lose, the whole world loses, especially Europe. From that reason Europeans have to know their history.
If Bulgaria has been there since the time of the Pharoahs where then did the Ancient Thracians live?
If Bulgaria has been there since the time of the Pharoahs where then did the Ancient Thracians live?
Bulgaria has not been where the Pharoahs where. Bulgarians came to Europe from Asia. But the first their nativeland is Balkan penincula where they lived togather with the thracians. This is the old nativeland of Indo-Europeans.10000 - 8000 years B.C. there was a big flood and then was created Black sea. Thracians remained on the Balkan penincula, but Bulgarians went out and entered in Asia. Where they had a interaction with the ancient eastern civillisations. In the begining of A.D. they were again in Europe and in the early middle centuries created their great states in Europe and saved the continent. The Thracians were assimilated from Roman Empire, when Bulgarians came to Europe. Now there are only remainders from them. Today their names are "karakachani","Vlasi" and ets.But our topic is Bulgarian people and what they did for Europe in early middle centuries. The Thracians are other them.
This is THE FIRST what Bulgarian people does for Europe. The details : In 8 century A.D. Europe was threatened from Arabians. Bulgarian ruler- khan Tervel helped Bizantium empire against Arabians and his help turned out decisive one for saving the continent.
But didn't the Volga Bulgars convert to Islam at this time? So how can you say the helped the Byzantine against the Arabs? The did help against the Mongol invasion, though, as they were the first to defeat Khan and the Mongols.LINK
So you are saying the Bulgarian people started out in Bulgaria left and then came back? They had to spend their time wandering much like the Jews in the desert after their(the Jews) escape from Egypt I guess? I did not say they were colocated in Egypt with the Egyptians you make the claim that the Bulgarians have existed since then:
The Bulgarians are very ancient people, like egyptians. The proof is the fact, that their name exists in the most ancient legends and chronices. But egyptians are dead, and Bulgarians are alive.
As far as the Histories I know, the Bulgars are a slavic people just like the rest of the peoples of the present day Balkans. they migrated there in the latter centuries of the Western Roman Empire and just after Rome's fall. The Bulgars were one of the numerous barbarian tribes the Romans failed to hold out of their empire. See link here:Bulgarian HistoryI dont think your claim of an ancient presence of present day ethnic Bulgars in present day Bulgaria holds water. Sorry.
This is THE FIRST what Bulgarian people does for Europe. The details : In 8 century A.D. Europe was threatened from Arabians. Bulgarian ruler- khan Tervel helped Bizantium empire against Arabians and his help turned out decisive one for saving the continent.
But didn't the Volga Bulgars convert to Islam at this time? So how can you say the helped the Byzantine against the Arabs? The did help against the Mongol invasion, though, as they were the first to defeat Khan and the Mongols.LINK
I mean Danube Bulgaria in this case.
This is THE FIRST what Bulgarian people does for Europe. The details : In 8 century A.D. Europe was threatened from Arabians. Bulgarian ruler- khan Tervel helped Bizantium empire against Arabians and his help turned out decisive one for saving the continent.
But didn't the Volga Bulgars convert to Islam at this time? So how can you say the helped the Byzantine against the Arabs? The did help against the Mongol invasion, though, as they were the first to defeat Khan and the Mongols.LINK
I mean Danube Bulgaria in this case.
This is THE FIRST what Bulgarian people does for Europe. The details : In 8 century A.D. Europe was threatened from Arabians. Bulgarian ruler- khan Tervel helped Bizantium empire against Arabians and his help turned out decisive one for saving the continent.
But didn't the Volga Bulgars convert to Islam at this time? So how can you say the helped the Byzantine against the Arabs? The did help against the Mongol invasion, though, as they were the first to defeat Khan and the Mongols.LINK
I mean Danube Bulgaria in this case.
This is THE FIRST what Bulgarian people does for Europe. The details : In 8 century A.D. Europe was threatened from Arabians. Bulgarian ruler- khan Tervel helped Bizantium empire against Arabians and his help turned out decisive one for saving the continent.
But didn't the Volga Bulgars convert to Islam at this time? So how can you say the helped the Byzantine against the Arabs? The did help against the Mongol invasion, though, as they were the first to defeat Khan and the Mongols.LINK
I mean Danube Bulgaria in this case.
This is THE FIRST what Bulgarian people does for Europe. The details : In 8 century A.D. Europe was threatened from Arabians. Bulgarian ruler- khan Tervel helped Bizantium empire against Arabians and his help turned out decisive one for saving the continent.
But didn't the Volga Bulgars convert to Islam at this time? So how can you say the helped the Byzantine against the Arabs? The did help against the Mongol invasion, though, as they were the first to defeat Khan and the Mongols.LINK
I mean Danube Bulgaria in this case.
Any historian who claims "this one particular state" saved Europe should be suspect.
Why? I only show the fact. You can not deny that the help of ruler Tervel turned out decisive one for the saving of Europe.
Posting the same thing multiple times doesn't make your point more convincing.The Bulgarians need to get in line to be the saviors of Europe. There is the Austrians and Polish for stopping the Turks in front of Vienna in the 16th century, the Russians fro containing the Mongols, the Hungarians for the Mongols and Turks, and the Spanish for combatting the Muslims in Iberia to name just a few. I hardly think that Tervels restoration of Justinian II to his throne counts as saving Europe. The Byzantine Empire was not in the middle of collapsing in the 8th century. At best, Tervel intervened in the dynastic dispute of another nation. Some people would call that meddling in affairs not his own.
So you are saying the Bulgarian people started out in Bulgaria left and then came back? They had to spend their time wandering much like the Jews in the desert after their(the Jews) escape from Egypt I guess? I did not say they were colocated in Egypt with the Egyptians you make the claim that the Bulgarians have existed since then:
The Bulgarians are very ancient people, like egyptians. The proof is the fact, that their name exists in the most ancient legends and chronices. But egyptians are dead, and Bulgarians are alive.
As far as the Histories I know, the Bulgars are a slavic people just like the rest of the peoples of the present day Balkans. they migrated there in the latter centuries of the Western Roman Empire and just after Rome's fall. The Bulgars were one of the numerous barbarian tribes the Romans failed to hold out of their empire. See link here:Bulgarian HistoryI dont think your claim of an ancient presence of present day ethnic Bulgars in present day Bulgaria holds water. Sorry. Do not hasten to sorry! Because Bulgarian people indeed went out from Europe after the big flood-8000 years B.C. They are not barbarians. They have state many years B.C. At leest 1000 yaers B.C. Have you heard something about bulgarian state Balhara or Balkara? Read carefuly what i write. I wrote bulgarians are not slavs. Their language shows that, after all. This the bigest proof, because it can not be falsify. How you can falsify the speech, wich we use every moment? I mean the fact, the grammer of one language can not be changed and the grammer could not exists alone without the words/the vocabulary/, wich the grammer servs. Ask some filologist. Bulgarian grammer is totaly different from this of slav peoples. In spite of that there are many bulgarian words in modern bulgarian language, wich are with the same meaning like the slav words. For example : meaning - run - slav word-biagam , bulgarian word- ticham , meaning - walk - slav word- hodia , bulgarian word - varvia etc. The genetic invastigations and antropology ones confirm that. This is not ocasionaly.
