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  • August 10, 2007 at 2:50 pm #814 Reply
    H.H. Buggfuzz
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    Apparently someone found a life preserver washed up from the Edmund Fitzgerald wreckhttp://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index.ssf?/base/news-37/1186574710138350.xml&coll=6

    August 10, 2007 at 6:28 pm #9491 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    Very interesting if true.  Hard to believe, though, that it would have been floating for three decades. 

    August 11, 2007 at 4:36 am #9492 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    It's still remarkable, to me at least, that a ship could be destroyed in a lake, even though it's a big one at that. 

    August 24, 2007 at 12:25 pm #9493 Reply
    Wally
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    It's still remarkable, to me at least, that a ship could be destroyed in a lake, even though it's a big one at that. 

    According to my sources, Superior is approx 32K sq-miles… a bit larger than South Carolina.The Fitz was 729' long and displaced 26.6K tons. Almost the provirbial needle in the haystake.Surprised me too  :oWally

    August 24, 2007 at 3:07 pm #9494 Reply
    Phidippides
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    I read A Perfect Storm some years ago (really good read) which talks all about the sword fishing industry and going out to sea.  One of the things I got from the book was that ships are actually quite difficult to turn over.  While I imagine lake storms can be violent, I wouldn't think they'd be as violent as storms in the middle of the ocean.  Evidently they can still be enough to sink a 700 foot ship.

    August 24, 2007 at 11:47 pm #9495 Reply
    Wally
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    I read A Perfect Storm … ships are actually quite difficult to turn over.  While I imagine lake storms can be violent, I wouldn't think they'd be as violent as storms in the middle of the ocean.  Evidently they can still be enough to sink a 700 foot ship.

    If I remember correctly the Fitz, more-or-less, was swamped. The hold covers weren't completely secure and allowed water to enter the holds, this added the unrecognized grounding damage, that added more water. At a certain point buoyancy was lost. While there have been various other thoughts this seems the most likely and is currently the most accepted I think. Wally

    August 25, 2007 at 12:18 pm #9496 Reply
    skiguy
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    According to this source http://www.ssefo.com/info/timeline.html the 'Fitz' was severely damaged (and repaired) a few times prior to her sinking. 

    1969September 6Internal and external damage occurs when the Edmund Fitzgerald hits ground near the Soo Locks.    1970April 30The Edmund Fitzgerald and the S.S. Hochelaga collide, causing damage for the second time in less than eight months.    September 4The Edmund Fitzgerald is damaged when it hits a lock wall.  This is the third time the Edmund Fitzgerald has been subjected to significant damage in only 12 months.

    I wonder if this had anything to do with it.

    August 25, 2007 at 1:25 pm #9497 Reply
    Wally
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    According to this source http://www.ssefo.com/info/timeline.html the 'Fitz' was severely damaged (and repaired) a few times prior to her sinking. 

    1969September 6Internal and external damage occurs when the Edmund Fitzgerald hits ground near the Soo Locks.     1970April 30The Edmund Fitzgerald and the S.S. Hochelaga collide, causing damage for the second time in less than eight months.     September 4The Edmund Fitzgerald is damaged when it hits a lock wall.  This is the third time the Edmund Fitzgerald has been subjected to significant damage in only 12 months.

    I wonder if this had anything to do with it.

    I'm no marine architect but seems like these events certainly could have taken a toll on the integrity of the ship.

    November 4, 2007 at 9:36 pm #9498 Reply
    Wally
    Participant

    For those interested in what Lightfoot tells in his song….http://home.europa.com/~random7/fitz.htm#line

    June 7, 2008 at 4:00 pm #9499 Reply
    Phidippides
    Keymaster

    They're now marking 50 years since the launch of the Edmund Fitzgerald.Ceremony to mark 50 years since Edmund Fitzgerald's launchThe ship was downed about 33 years ago.  Strange, as it seems like this is the kind of thing that would have happened much longer ago than that.

    June 8, 2008 at 11:57 pm #9500 Reply
    quikdraw67
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    Always thought that was a haunting song…you could visualize what was happening

    June 9, 2008 at 1:28 am #9501 Reply
    DonaldBaker
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    I find it amazing that these big boats go out to sea with the impression they can take anything, but in the end, man-made objects stand no chance against Mother Nature.

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