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February 14, 2012 at 9:48 pm #25769
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ParticipantBar none the best comment I have read yet in any of the debates I have been following about the HHS-Catholics argument:
- You're wrong Vision, your wife's employer should get to decide if she deserves coverage. Because she might just be a slut, and we can't take that risk. The way it should work is women should have to take a note to a priest from their doctor who will approve whether or not she is using it in good conscience. You just can't trust us sneaky temptresses.
- dwduck Well, if you feel that strongly about it, open your wallet and go buy it yourself. I don't know why you insist on it being "free".Are you implying women are too flighty to take care of their own needs? Like, if the government doesn't force someone to give them pills, they're going to get distracted on the way to the drugstore and buy a pair of shoes instead?
I almost fell out my chair laughing. The original post was on the Bad Catholic blog, which is an excellent blog all by itself, that it is for and about Catholicism is just a plus from my point of view.
February 21, 2012 at 9:51 pm #25770Phidippides
KeymasterThis pretty much sums up my thoughts exactly.Jonah Goldberg: Obama sees cynicism in others, not himself
February 24, 2012 at 11:44 pm #25771scout1067
ParticipantThat is a great one and perfectly descriptive.
June 28, 2012 at 1:10 pm #25772scout1067
ParticipantThough I am still not a big fan of Romney, I am going to take my medicine and vote for him. Who wants to bet that no matter the results of the Supreme Court decision on Obamacare it can made into a plus for the Romney campaign?My prediction is that the mandate is tossed but the rest is allowed to stand. We should know one way or the other in about 2 hours. I am also going to predict a 6-3 vote.
June 28, 2012 at 3:17 pm #25773Phidippides
KeymasterWell, unfortunately you were off by a bit. However, this may have a silver lining, as it could galvanize opposition to Obamacare come November.
June 28, 2012 at 6:51 pm #25774Notch
ParticipantI think there is still too much a divide on the Conservative side to give Romney the victory over Obama. While I really don't care for Romney, as Patrick said, I'll suck it up since I cannot vote for Obama.This win for them I think will pull them together as a rallying cry (Look what we did) and that along with the split in the GOP/Conservative arena will give Obama another 4 years... God help us.
June 29, 2012 at 5:05 am #25775DonaldBaker
ParticipantI think I'll sit this one out. Two losers running for president just doesn't cut it for me. Tell me who wins.
June 29, 2012 at 9:03 am #25776skiguy
ModeratorI think I'll sit this one out. Two losers running for president just doesn't cut it for me. Tell me who wins.
This is about where I'm at too. I'm so sick of voting against someone, I want to vote FOR somebody. I just find it difficult to be for Romney.
June 29, 2012 at 10:51 am #25777scout1067
ParticipantI am not FOR Romney per se. I still don't like him and think there were several other candidates who got a raw deal in the primaries who would have been better.Here is my logic: At this point conservatives need to concentrate on gaining control of both Congress and the Oval Office. Specifically , we need to concentrate on Tea party candidates because they are the ones who will reign in the excesses of Establishment Republicans. Let’s face it, the establishment Republicans are just as bad as Democrats the difference is a matter of degree not kind. Enough Tea Partiers and the Oval Office we can get Obamacare repealed and probably a start on cleaning up the country’s fiscal mess. With congress but not the Oval Office we don’t have a chance because I don’t see Republicans coming up with a veto proof majority. That means we need both Congress and the Presidency. The absolute key is electing Tea Party candidates though to Congress though. For those reasons I am willing to vote for Romney. Declining to vote is the effective equivalence of a vote for Obama and we absolutely cannot afford another four years of that clown.
June 29, 2012 at 8:07 pm #25778scout1067
ParticipantExcellent analysis of what the Supreme Court decision really means from the comment section at WSJ.
So according to Roberts, the Government can not fine you for not eating your broccoli, but if you do not eat it they can tax you! Please somebody explain to me the difference.
That just about sums it up as far as I can see. So far I have plowed about halfway through the opinion. I havent gotten to the dissent yet and apparently that is the juicy part.
June 30, 2012 at 12:11 am #25779Notch
ParticipantWe will be taxed for NOT doing something… that means inactivity is taxable… The biggest problem is the liberals cannot see the big deal with this... "everyone gets health care, who cares how" is pretty much their logic... missing that they have to pay for it AND pay for government control of it.. otherwise, they get fined.. wait... I'm sorry, they get taxed....How any reasonable person cannot see the total lunacy of this is beyond me...
July 1, 2012 at 7:26 am #25780scout1067
ParticipantNotch, the mistake you are making is in thinking that Liberals can be reasonable about anything that advances their agenda. They do not care about the wider implications of Obamacare being upheld and if they do think about them they are happy. The central tenet of the modern left is to increase the power of the central government. Most liberals want that and do not care that the government will be and is telling them how to live their lives. If they do think about it they don't worry because the only people being ordered around are the peons and they consider themselves part of the elite who will be able to safely ignore the rules anyway.
July 1, 2012 at 5:51 pm #25781DonaldBaker
ParticipantI'm 99% sure Obama is the Antichrist, and if he's not, then the Antichrist is taking notes on how to be the Antichrist by watching Obama. Romney, well, he's a RINO who wants to repeal Obamacare, but get this, he wants to “replace” it. Replace it with what? Just repeal the stupid thing and leave the healthcare system alone as it is. This is why I can't vote in this year's election. Romney is not that much different from Obama. Yes he is not as liberal, but he's not a conservative either. He talks conservative while he campaigns, but he won't follow through with it once elected. He will try to govern from a moderate position which means he will routinely cave in to the Democrats on key issues. How is that any different than having Obama with a GOP Congress? Romney may well have a full GOP Congress to work with, but he won't use it. Republicans never do when they have the super majority. They are so used to being the minority party, they don't know how to lead when the pendulum swings their way. Then what happens? The GOP loses power because they frustrate their base who feels like Charlie Brown and the football. Newt Gingrich is a prime example of a missed opportunity. He had the mandate once and frittered it away trying to coexist with the liberal Democrats and the Clintons. I'm sick of this same old song and dance.
July 1, 2012 at 6:18 pm #25782skiguy
ModeratorWho really thinks a GOP Congress will stop Romney when he goes Left?
July 1, 2012 at 7:50 pm #25783DonaldBaker
ParticipantAnd he will go Left.
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