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Wally:What on earth are you eating that has made you so dispeptic?
My $0.02 as a teacher that has watched as the programs to help these folks become sops for the sob sisters instead of solid educational programs. Far too many meetings when the parent wants to help but needs a translator; in some cases (folks from Asia mostly... good translators are fewer) the kid in question acts in this capacity. Think they are going to tell the folks what a bad little child they've been. Biggest problem is that it tears down the family structure... puts the kid in charge. What happened to the night school classes of days gone by? Doesn't matter, you can get all the paperwork for just about anything in any language. A friend of mine used to run the print shop for our local gov't. Had to print things in about nine languages.
Although I agree that our little brown brothers from south of the border (I have a whole nest of the in Mexico city) come here to make money to send home and do not bring their families may be deficient in English. I could argue that they are the hired muscle for jobs that are too difficult or too unattractivefor Americans to do. I have worked the Mexican border for many years and as you may be aware the Mexicans are among the hardest working people on the face of the earth.
A glib remark which I'm at a loss to understand. I never underestimate the work ethic... I worked in an agricultural industry for many years and saw these fellows in action, working rings around our kids. What I'm pointing at is the transient attitude of many immigrants (not just from Mexico either).
I think Scout's concern was families not just guys. The parents may intend to return in those cases, but the kids, once exposed to the riches of our culture (sic) are a different matter.
Mine too; I've had students have to go back with the folks and they weren't gonna fit anymore. Like it or not most people want to be like us (might not admit it though but Levi's are still hot on the blackmarket, no?). But they love to hate us anyways.
I do agree with you about the putative policy in Germany. Whenever I hear language and deportation vis a vis Germany, I reach for my Browning (stolen quote, slightly altered).
Waaay more than Uncle Wally needs to know. 😮
Posted on: Today at 07:28:03 PM Posted by: willyDInsert QuoteI see what you say and I understand--a trilemma!Posted on: Today at 07:14:40 PM Posted by: WallyInsert QuoteQuote from: willyD on Today at 05:39:42 PMWally:What on earth are you eating that has made you so dispeptic?My $0.02 as a teacher that has watched as the programs to help these folks become sops for the sob sisters instead of solid educational programs. Far too many meetings when the parent wants to help but needs a translator; in some cases (folks from Asia mostly... good translators are fewer) the kid in question acts in this capacity. Think they are going to tell the folks what a bad little child they've been. Biggest problem is that it tears down the family structure... puts the kid in charge. What happened to the night school classes of days gone by? Doesn't matter, you can get all the paperwork for just about anything in any language. A friend of mine used to run the print shop for our local gov't. Had to print things in about nine languages.QuoteAlthough I agree that our little brown brothers from south of the border (I have a whole nest of the in Mexico city) come here to make money to send home and do not bring their families may be deficient in English. I could argue that they are the hired muscle for jobs that are too difficult or too unattractivefor Americans to do. I have worked the Mexican border for many years and as you may be aware the Mexicans are among the hardest working people on the face of the earth.A glib remark which I'm at a loss to understand. I never underestimate the work ethic... I worked in an agricultural industry for many years and saw these fellows in action, working rings around our kids. What I'm pointing at is the transient attitude of many immigrants (not just from Mexico either).QuoteI think Scout's concern was families not just guys. The parents may intend to return in those cases, but the kids, once exposed to the riches of our culture (sic) are a different matter.Mine too; I've had students have to go back with the folks and they weren't gonna fit anymore. Like it or not most people want to be like us (might not admit it though but Levi's are still hot on the blackmarket, no?). But they love to hate us anyways.QuoteI do agree with you about the putative policy in Germany. Whenever I hear language and deportation vis a vis Germany, I reach for my Browning (stolen quote, slightly altered).Waaay more than Uncle Wally needs to know. Wally: You live in California--all is forgiven, all other factors are reduced to a minimum. best of luck on your economy--California leads the way again.WillyD
Wally: You live in California--all is forgiven, all other factors are reduced to a minimum. best of luck on your economy--California leads the way again.
Yes... and we are the land of the fruits and nuts. ;D
And the golden land of opportunity, sunshine and scenic wonder. Also–On a clear day you can see Japan.
The major factor, according to a reliable source of mine, is that the Japanese corps. were given gov't support to cover losses incurred in the American market. That probably isn't the case anymore but it's how Fuji film got started in the US many years ago. Not exactly fair or free trade.
I lived in Japan for a couple of years. They repeatedly astonished me with their ingenuity, tenacity andwork ethics. Their consumer products were wonderful--I had an electric rice cooker, a Sony TV and a Honda "dream" 250cc urban motorcycle. Life was good.Their commercial practices go back, as you no doubt know, to the decisions made by the nation's leaders after the Perry intrusion. To avoid being "colonized" they embarked on an unprecedented program ofmodernization and industrialization whereby government and industry worked closely for the overallbetterment of the nation. Government credits and influence were the usual practice and this relation-ship continued for many years. Honda was an unusual case. There was no problem with the company making their excellent motorcycles, but the government had decided that Toyota and Datsun were to be thestellar twins in automobiles for domestic as well as foreign markets. Honda did it on his own--of course he was a rebel and a genius so that helped. Non-conformists are very rare in Japanese society and areboth feared and awed in their defiance of convention. Backdoor assistance to Fuji or any other companywas SOP and I am very curious to see how the current Toyota ( I have owned four of them) debacle isgoing to work out. One thing you can be sure of--the government will be involved as ours is in ourautomobile industry meltdown. Hint: Look to Korea--Hundai and Kia are rising stars.
Agreed. Interesting though that to stimulate their domestic industry didn't they mandate engine replacement at a certain mileage or age regardless of condition? how about the restriction of sale, on the domestic market, certain higher hp motorcycles… for export only. Curious. ???
Yes–the regimentation possible in Japanese society is astonishing. If things had gone another way they would have made great pseudo Communists as they seem to revel in conformity. My brother, who lived in Japan for 10 years, told me that at one point the police would ticket you for having a car that was rusty!I still believe that their vehicles are wonderful. God bless Demming.
