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Nelson's flagship, HMS Victory, at the battle of Trafalgar, had a crew of 441 English, 64 Scots, 63 Irish, 18 Welsh, three Shetlanders, two Channel Islanders, one Manxman, as well as seventy one foreigners made up of 22 Americans, seven Dutch, six Swedes, four Italians, four Maltese, three Frenchmen? (probably Royalist volunteers), three Norwegians, three Germans, two Swiss, two Portugese, two Danes, two Indians, one Russian, one African abd nine West Indians. "One can't beat a truly British crew."? 🙄
So how did they fit all those people on one boat?
Oh Dear! I hope that we do not have any Naval experts on the group, otherwise somebody is going to get very pendantic about calling the Victory a 'Boat'.? 😛
Actually I figured that might ruffle some feathers, but I did it anyway. I think someone has called me on it before, he he.So I count 670+ on the "ship". I didn't know that they made military vessels that large back in the day!
The Victory was a beautiful vessel. I have never seen it in person but I have seen many pictures. It was very large, but over 600? that is a lot.
Wow this thread got resurrected today. 😀 I wish somebody could explain the various classifications of the old naval vessels. What's the difference in a clipper, dreadnought, skooner etc….I'm completely ignorant in this subject. 😛
Doesn't dreadnought mean an armed ship? I think with the other 2 it's the number of sails or the length. Not sure of this.
I'll get more to you later on this, but the main differnce is masts. anywhere from two to five (most of the bigger and faster ships had four) few had five.
Around the turn of the 19th century the british navy rated there ships like this: They were divided into 6 rates:First Rate:100-112 guns, 841 men (thats all aboard)Second Rate: 90-98 guns, 743 menThird Rate: 64, 74 and 80 guns and up to 724 menFourth rate: 50 guns, 345 menFifth Rate: 32, 36, 38 and 44 guns 217 to 219 menSixth Rate: 20, 24, and 28 guns and up to 198 menThe ships that carried 60 or more guns were called ships of the line because it was they alone who could stand in the line of battle. Frigates in the military were ships that carried all there armamnet on one deck and were built for speed, thay also served as the eyes of the fleet. A two masted ship was called a brig and most of the other bigger vessels had three: the formast, mainmast and mizzenmast.http://www.frigate.com/frigate-defined.html
Around the turn of the 19th century the british navy rated there ships like this: They were divided into 6 rates:First Rate:100-112 guns, 841 men (thats all aboard)Second Rate: 90-98 guns, 743 menThird Rate: 64, 74 and 80 guns and up to 724 menFourth rate: 50 guns, 345 menFifth Rate: 32, 36, 38 and 44 guns 217 to 219 menSixth Rate: 20, 24, and 28 guns and up to 198 menThe ships that carried 60 or more guns were called ships of the line because it was they alone who could stand in the line of battle. Frigates in the military were ships that carried all there armamnet on one deck and were built for speed, thay also served as the eyes of the fleet. A two masted ship was called a brig and most of the other bigger vessels had three: the formast, mainmast and mizzenmast.
I had never heard of these classifications before. Very interesting. This is something I probably would like to learn more about if time ever permited. 😆
Heres a site with a little history and pictures of the Victory.http://www.stvincent.ac.uk/Heritage/1797/Victory/index2.html
