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Here is a chart which shows the percentage of Jewish populations in different countries killed during WWII. http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/bild-754486-198224.htmlIt's an interesting chart, not only because I had wondered where the numbers came from, but because it looks like most significant areas of killing were in eastern Europe. Also, it shows that many other nations had higher percentages of Jews killed than in Germany, which is at 33% of the Jewish population. Why is this?
Much of Eastern (Slavic) Europe had a longer history of murderous antisemitism that lasted well into the 20th century before Hitler came to power. My mother who emigrated at age 10 from Ukraine in 1914 remembered stones being thrown at Jewish homes after Good Friday through Easter. My paternal grandfather who lived with his family in Warsaw decided to emigrate in 1905 after a Cossack rampage against the Jews.The death camps and einsatz commandos had plenty of willing volunteers from Ukraine, Byeolrus, Lithuanians, Poles, and the Balts. Serbs and Bulgarians were the exception. So were a minority of righteous and courageous individual Christians.But then, the criminals were also murderous toward other "tribes" -- check the WWII events in Yugoslavia (read WARTIME by Djilas), which explains much of what happenedthat led to the massacres of the 1990s. Croats and Bosnian Muslims committed equal opportunity atrocities against anyone not them while supporting the Nazis.
Chart is deceptive because most from eastern Europe were murdered in their own country or region while most in the west were transported to the death camps.
Chart is deceptive because most from eastern Europe were murdered in their own country or region while most in the west were transported to the death camps.
Surprisingly the Netherlands reach second according to that chart with a 91% rate. The Netherlands are right in the core of western Europe though. France got 25% "only" although the recent contreversies about collaboration and deportation have recently occupied the first page in many medias.http://articles.cnn.com/2009-02-16/world/france.holocaust.court_1_trial-of-maurice-papon-vichy-government-deportation?_s=PM:WORLD http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1197783.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7893127.stm About Bulgaria, I wonder if History didn't play a role with its important muslim community. In many nazi occupied muslim countries, the hunt for Jews didn't seem to work well (except with the Mufti of Jerusalem). Is this an explanation about Bulgaria lowest rate as well or am I totally wrong ? http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/myths/mf15.html This chart is really amazing ...
Chart is deceptive because most from eastern Europe were murdered in their own country or region while most in the west were transported to the death camps.
I could be wrong, but I am not sure that is the case. The chart is based on census data, or when Jews were living in their country of origin (e.g. France, Germany, etc.). Even if they were transported to death camps in the east, that would still be reflected in the data of the countries in the west. At least that is the way I read it. Another thing - the chart shows the year in which the pre-holocaust census was taken place, and in some cases it was done almost a decade before the war. I'm not sure how they account for natural migration during the 1930s. For example, it says that 91% of the Jewish population of 110,000 (in 1930) was killed, but how do they know how many Jews migrated to other nations (including the U.S.) as the war was approaching?
