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Truth is only a hazy concept for poets and philosophers.
And what about regular folk? What then is the difference between truth and fact. I contend that the concept of truth is metaphysical whereas fact is either physical, verifiable, or both.
Pontius Pilate asked "What is truth?" Did anyone in history ever give him his answer?
I think we are still waiting for it. Those on the left think they have it, but they are mistaken. I think only God knows what the truth is. I will have to ask him about it in the next life.
I am no fan of Jefferson Davis. I think he was a man of principle but his petty attempts to micromanage the war hurt the chances of success. He played favorites with his subordinates and handicapped some of his most capable generals.Except for a drunken bar fight Davis would have not been president. Robert Toombs was on the fast track to be president but got into a bar fight the night before the nominating convention. Davis actually did not want to be president he wanted to be a field general.Davis detested Joe Johnston who was a good general. Johnston once said "Jefferson Davis has tried to accomplish what God could not. He tried to make a soldier out of Braxton Bragg"I don't think that Davis was a traitor. He was not in rebellion against an elected government. He had seperated from that government and was president of a seperate country until that country was forced to rejoin the original country by force of arms. There is no difference in the war for Southern independence and the Revolutionary War where we seperated from the Crown except that the South lost.
I have to agree with you Buggfuzz. Had Davis been a field general, he would not have done as much damage, but knowing him, he would have been one of the generals in command during a crucial battle and would have botched it very badly. He was just one of those charismatic figures in history who talked a good enough game to get himself into a position for which he was not qualified.
Pontius Pilate asked "What is truth?" Did anyone in history ever give him his answer?
Yes. The author's of the New Testament. ;D
Pontius Pilate asked "What is truth?" Did anyone in history ever give him his answer?
Yes. The author's of the New Testament. ;D
This probably should be split to Christian Legacies. ;D
Truth is only a hazy concept for poets and philosophers.
And what about regular folk? What then is the difference between truth and fact. I contend that the concept of truth is metaphysical whereas fact is either physical, verifiable, or both.
Then you must go by the letter of the law at the time. Davis was a traitor, as was Washington, Adams and the rest of those who participated in the revolutionary war. They broke the law, just because they won (except Davis of course) doesnt change that fact. The fact that they won is what saved them from the hangmans noose.
Truth is only a hazy concept for poets and philosophers.
And what about regular folk? What then is the difference between truth and fact. I contend that the concept of truth is metaphysical whereas fact is either physical, verifiable, or both.
Then you must go by the letter of the law at the time. Davis was a traitor, as was Washington, Adams and the rest of those who participated in the revolutionary war. They broke the law, just because they won (except Davis of course) doesnt change that fact. The fact that they won is what saved them from the hangmans noose.
You are absolutely right. Historically, winning usually fixes everything. I made exactly this point when I joined this thread.
They were traitors against crown, the difference is that the side they were fighting for won, Davis' side did not. Therefore, he was not vindicated by victory. I point out that history is written by the winners despite all the protestations on the left, that is still true. The ultimate verdict in history like in life, is whether you win or lose.
As an example, if the Nazi's had won 60 years ago would anyone be talking about how horrible it was that they killed all the Jews and other so-called undesirables? I think not, instead Hitler would be lauded as a visionary who eliminated a corrupting influence from society and the Allies would be fools who followed the Jews into the dustbin of history. The fact is, that while according to the British the Founding Fathers were traitors, they won, and their victory absolved them of the crime of treachery. Davis lost, therefore he is still a traitor while Washington, etc are not.
to me Jefferson Davis is a house hold name. I think that the man disserves to be honored… infact i believe he should have his own holiday. did he make some mistakes…yes but to err is human. the man did what he thought was right. the plain and simple fact is the south lost beacause the north had more men, more industries, and had some good luck in july of 1863 (LOL).
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