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Is there a difference between the two?Liberal: they mean well, but are usually wrong about how to attain those means.Leftist: anti-American; haters of anything military related.Feel free to add/correct.
No, I think it's the same. It's just as “right” is identified with “conservative”. Well, now that I think of it, there may be a slight difference depending on the context. When you hear about “leftist guerillas”, or something along that line, they're using “leftist” to refer to socialist. A “rightist paramilitary group” is one which is, likely, one that operates by its own creed and independent of/against the nation in which it is located. So when the context is in regard to military groups, the answer is leftist and liberal are not the same.
Let me add to what I said. Liberals are on the left and conservatives are on the right, but I don't think liberal = leftist or conservative = rightist. Going back to the “leftist guerilla” comment I made, I think that “leftist” in this context would refer to political (socialist) orientation rather than any social attitude as we would think of it. So while those guerillas may want to overthrow a capitalist system, I'm not sure they are the same ones who would be arguing for abortion on demand, homosexual marriage, etc. So in that sense, “leftist” would apply more to breaking down horizontal barriers of class distinction.
Gets all balled up; our Founders were very liberal at that time… George III and Co., the conservatives (pro status-quo).Given today that Teddy, Diane, Chucky and the rest of The Hillary Crew are seeking to keep their Nanny Gov't. trend going they are the conservatives and the folks that mean for us to have a gov't that isn't in our lives soooo much would be liberals.Depnds on where you stand.
So true; liberalism and conservatism depend on the time. In my current research I've read about the Whigs in the early 18th Century who history might look upon as being rather “liberal” in their ideals. They were, after all, the ones who wanted power in the hands of Parliament and a limited monarch, they were against the Catholic king James II, and they followed “Nature” and its rationality. Digging beneath this, however, I found they also wanted voting rights to be restricted to landowners, and that allowing the masses to vote would have been horror for society.I'm sure at the time the Whigs were considered to be "liberals".
What about like a Joe Lieberman (modern day) Liberal as opposed to a Harry Reid Leftist? Those are probable two extreme examples of a Liberal and a Leftist. Lieberman is certainly no Conservative but he's pro-American. Reid blames America for everything.
What about like a Joe Lieberman (modern day) Liberal as opposed to a Harry Reid Leftist? Those are probable two extreme examples of a Liberal and a Leftist. Lieberman is certainly no Conservative but he's pro-American. Reid blames America for everything.
I see how you are distinguishing them, but I wouldn't agree that the distinctions are properly along liberal/leftist lines. I don't think that either of those labels would apply specifically to those who like or dislike the United States.
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