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August 20, 2006 at 10:24 pm #300
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ParticipantA French historian has caused uproar by claiming Napoleon provided the model for Hitler's Final Solution with the slaughter of more than 100,000 Caribbean slaves.In The Crime of Napoleon, Claude Ribbe accuses the emperor of genocide, gassing rebellious blacks more than a century before the Nazis' extermination of the Jews.? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/26/wfra26.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/11/26/ixworld.html
August 21, 2006 at 1:08 am #6281Phidippides
KeymasterVery interesting account. Still, I'd hesitate to believe it without examining the author's work. At face value, it seems rather odd to kill 100,000 slaves. Hitler killed the Jews because he despised them as a race; to kill 100,000 slaves because they were rebellious seems far-fetched. I don't know how an economy would have survived with this kind of destruction of one's work force. Further, I don't know how they would have been able to do it on such a large scale in the 19th Century. Hitler had a systematic method for exterminating the Jews, and from what I have learned at Dachau it was not a simple task. For Napoleon do kill 100,000 would have been more difficult.
August 21, 2006 at 6:01 am #6282DonaldBaker
ParticipantI would have to take issue with this. The Final Solution was the brainchild of Adolph Eichmann; not Hitler. You can read about the genesis of the Final Solution in Hanna Arendt's The Banality of Evil.
August 21, 2006 at 9:57 pm #6283Stumpfoot
ParticipantVery interesting account.? Still, I'd hesitate to believe it without examining the author's work.? At face value, it seems rather odd to kill 100,000 slaves.? Hitler killed the Jews because he despised them as a race; to kill 100,000 slaves because they were rebellious seems far-fetched.? I don't know how an economy would have survived with this kind of destruction of one's work force.? Further, I don't know how they would have been able to do it on such a large scale in the 19th Century.? Hitler had a systematic method for exterminating the Jews, and from what I have learned at Dachau it was not a simple task.? For Napoleon do kill 100,000 would have been more difficult.
It does seem a bit far-fetched, doesn't it? Racial extermination is a lot different from suppressing rebellion. Napoleon had his faults, but he was no Hitler.
September 14, 2008 at 9:17 pm #6284scout1067
ParticipantDidn't the Romans crucify something like 20,000 rebellious slaves and line the Appian way with their crucifixes after the failed slave rebeliion of Spartacus?
September 15, 2008 at 12:41 am #6285DonaldBaker
ParticipantNot to mention Ivan Dracul's mutilation of his own people in Transylvania in much the same manner (impalement).
October 15, 2008 at 11:39 pm #6286TOMCALGARY
ParticipantNapolean wishes he thought up genocide! I think the bible predates Napolean and alot of other historical figures and last I checked there was some ethnic cleansing going on then and I'm sure it was an old idea by the time they wrote it down then.
November 27, 2008 at 2:02 pm #6287scout1067
ParticipantSo-called Ethnic Cleansing is as old as war itself. It is part and parcel of one group trying to rid themselves of the OTHER. Research the Khwarazmian Turkish method of conquering Anatolia if you want to read about genocide. I guarantee that one way to ensure a conquest is not contested is to kill all the inhabitants.
November 29, 2008 at 5:49 am #6288Stumpfoot
ParticipantIsrael and the land of Caanan comes to mind.
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