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December 16, 2010 at 7:30 pm #2557
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ParticipantDoes anybody know something about Transylvania's involvement in the Peace of Westphalia?Thanks!
December 16, 2010 at 7:42 pm #23430Aetheling
ParticipantYou might get some information through these links :http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-11111.html http://www.famoushistoricalevents.net/peace-westphalia/
December 17, 2010 at 12:09 am #23431Phidippides
KeymasterI can tell you generally speaking that the Treaty of Westphalia solidified Protestantism (and Protestant powers) in Europe, which I think was the most significant thing about it.
December 17, 2010 at 9:27 am #23432scout1067
ParticipantTransylvania was not a signatory to the Treaty of Westphalia. At that time Transylvania was part of the Holy Roman and Russian Empires and so had no legal standing except as subject territories.
December 18, 2010 at 12:53 pm #23433Smardz
ParticipantTransylvania was not a signatory to the Treaty of Westphalia.
Transylvania was not a signatory of the Treaty - that's true.
At that time Transylvania was part of the Holy Roman and Russian Empires and so had no legal standing except as subject territories.
Not even partially true.Principality of Transylvania signed Treaty of Linz in 1645. Transylvania under gabor Bethlen and Georg I was fighting fiercely with Austria since 1618 when Bethlen moved it's armies to Austrian Hungary to aid anti-habsburg rebels.Transylvania was independent state under superior power of Turkish sultan. The sultan stopped Transylvanian armies in 1645 and forced the principality to sign the peace treaty.
Does anybody know something about Transylvania's involvement in the Peace of Westphalia?
I think it requires a specific book. Transylvanian matters might have been discussed at that gathering but I don't know any source on this subject.
December 18, 2010 at 7:15 pm #23434scout1067
ParticipantTransylvania was not a signatory to the Treaty of Westphalia.
Transylvania was not a signatory of the Treaty - that's true.
At that time Transylvania was part of the Holy Roman and Russian Empires and so had no legal standing except as subject territories.
Not even partially true.
I stand corrected. Thanks for the clarification. I did not do my homework like I should have before answering.
December 20, 2010 at 5:00 pm #23435Smardz
ParticipantIt's a matter of talking only when you have something to talk about.You could say nothing but you have chosen to say bullshit.
December 21, 2010 at 12:37 am #23436DonaldBaker
ParticipantIt's a matter of talking only when you have something to talk about.You could say nothing but you have chosen to say bullshit.
This is an inappropriate post Smardz. Don't do it again.
December 21, 2010 at 8:21 am #23437scout1067
ParticipantIt's a matter of talking only when you have something to talk about.You could say nothing but you have chosen to say bullshit.
Echo Donnie's comment above.A further question of where that came from? I guess I touched a nerve?I know just a litte bit about the Peace of Westphalia, I dont claim to be an expert on the history of minor European states though. I thought an apology and acknowledgement of error would be enough.
December 21, 2010 at 6:32 pm #23438Omer
ParticipantThis is just a forum. However rules of good maners, civility, politeness, accuracy, relevance, reliability and (to me the most important one) humility should always prevail.But well, I'm just a newbie here.
February 2, 2011 at 9:13 am #23439Daniel
ParticipantI thought an apology and acknowledgement of error would be enough.
So do I. I don't what what prompted the response, but IMHO it was totally lacking in good maners (sic.), civility, politeness...
February 3, 2011 at 12:04 am #23440donroc
ParticipantNot what I expected to read on this site unlike some I could mention. Nice reprimands.
February 3, 2011 at 11:45 am #23441Omer
ParticipantI propose the “hanged, drawn and quartered” sentence for such an abominable hubris 8)
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