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All your examples are examples of wrongs. The current health care legislation falls in that same category. I was taught growing up that two wrongs don't make a right. That applies just as much to government as it does to the individual. Just because the government can do something does not mean they shouldI do not see them as wrongs–but–nevermind. As for the rest…………………………………………………Agreed–that is why blind adherence to law without consideration of circumstances is the height of idiocy.The problem is each government we hire to run the nation for four years is free to try to impose itsversion or vision on the people. What we have here is factionalism rampant–an almost equally dividedpopulation on some key issues. My take is that Obama at last has decided to be the Captain of a shipthat will sail from the land of Reagan to a position left of center. Let us see how the elections 0f 2010play out. Old Turkish curse “may you live in interesting times”.
I eagerly await the proposal to mandate the happiness of all; we were only promised life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness… the opportunity for same. I'm also looking forward to the free Bubble-Up and rainbow stew (ala old) Merle Haggard song.This will not happen–you are free to pursue happiness without any guarantee of grasping it. Considerlife from the perspective of a really stupid deformed black dwarf born without teeth. He is free torun the race for happiness just as much as Robert Redford, Paul Newman or Brad Pitt.Again–thank you for your courteous and thoughtful posts–a please to reply.
… reminds me of the abolitionist response to the Dredd Scott decision–anger transcending reason.I remain optimistic in that blood will not flow in the streets this time as it did in 1861.
Thank you for the kind words; I'm sure that as time passes cooler heads will prevail and if it looks like the plan is workable those cooler heads will tweak it as necessary to get it to work at least as well as SS and Medicare. The biggest fear I have is that it will become another un or under-funded mandate to the states… they are hard pressed now as they cannot just print more money like the Feds.In the event this all heads south I hope the same people that have pushed it so hard will see the errors and fix them without hanging us any further out to dry; failing that they will need to take it out behind the barn and give it one between the eyes.
All your examples are examples of wrongs. …two wrongs don't make a right. That applies just as much to government as it does to the individual. Just because the government can do something does not mean they should
Agreed.I do not see them as wrongs–but–nevermind. As for the rest…………………………………………………
Agreed–that is why blind adherence to law without consideration of circumstances is the height of idiocy.The problem is each government we hire to run the nation for four years is free to try to impose itsversion or vision on the people.
As I taught the kids; revolution with ballots not bullets; like to see that continue… we've been lucky so far that all the players put the country ahead of themselves (so far).
What we have here is factionalism rampant–an almost equally dividedpopulation on some key issues. My take is that Obama at last has decided to be the Captain of a shipthat will sail from the land of Reagan to a position left of center. Let us see how the elections 0f 2010play out. Old Turkish curse “may you live in interesting times”.
All considered I'd rather take the train.Having said that I'm 10-26.
i am dismayed by all the hatred and invective accompanying this health plan, It reminds me of the abolitionist response to the Dredd Scott decision–anger transcending reason.
I realize that the left tries to demonize by association. In other words:- Racists who wanted to enslave black people disliked Dredd Scott and were angry at the government- People are angry at the government for the healthcare takeover- Ergo, people angry at the government for the healtchare takeover are racists who want to enslave black peopleI have witnessed this kind of thing going on on MSNBC and in liberal commentary. I suppose that we could make up similar silly syllogisms which apply to liberals which paint them as murderers, racists, etc.
This will not happen–you are free to pursue happiness without any guarantee of grasping it. Considerlife from the perspective of a really stupid deformed black dwarf born without teeth. He is free torun the race for happiness just as much as Robert Redford, Paul Newman or Brad Pitt.Again–thank you for your courteous and thoughtful posts–a please to reply.
Forgot to add this to the list in the last post… I'm far too jaded to think there won't be many more entitlements issued to us in the form of mandates that the states can't possibly pay for. It's got to stop or we go down the drain. That's as courteous and thoughtful as I can be on this as I watch my state and country headed there.
i am dismayed by all the hatred and invective accompanying this health plan, It reminds me of the abolitionist response to the Dredd Scott decision–anger transcending reason.
I have to agree with Phid here. Those that oppose the Health plan are being demonized in the press and court of Public Opinion as heartless. It is not that simple. Principled opposition is not being heard, I too wish the debate in this country over this and many other issues could be more civil. The problem is that people that try to be civil are more often than not ignored. The only way to be heard anymore is to be radical. Therein lies the pity of the current American political situation. Everyone (all sides) is too busy screaming to really have a discussion on this and other issues facing all of us as Americans. Health Care is a poster child because it is apparent that the Democratic leadership in Congress is ignoring the mass of the American people, they would rather pass a flawed bill than listen to their constituents. This is especially true given they see the writing on the wall and realize they will likely lose their majority in one or both houses come November. You know it is getting bad when congressional staffers tell constituents that calling in opposition to the bill is “harassment”.
…. Principled opposition is not being heard, I too wish the debate in this country over this and many other issues could be more civil. …people that try to be civil are more often than not ignored. The only way to be heard anymore is to be radical. Therein lies the pity…. Everyone (all sides) is too busy screaming to really have a discussion…. Health Care is a poster child … Congress… would rather pass a flawed bill than listen…. This is especially true given… they will likely lose their majority in one or both houses come November. You know it is getting bad when congressional staffers tell constituents that calling in opposition to the bill is “harassment”.
“Hassment” is becoming the new “bigot”; a catch-all epithet that brands one intolerant, intolerable, and mental. I have serious concerns and believe you are spot on with your post.
