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December 2, 2013 at 2:18 pm #3686
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ModeratorIf it's OK to do this, could someone try to find and get this for me. It should be about an 11 page PDF file. AMU does not not have this available in their JSTOR library. Body Form and Locomotion in SharksKeith Stewart Thomson, Dan E. Simanekin American Zoologist, Vol. 17, No. 2, 1977, pages 343-354.
December 2, 2013 at 4:00 pm #29527Phidippides
KeymasterI really do not think that JSTOR allows this kind of thing. They plaster a terms of service on a page when you try to download any article. However, it looks like there are other databases which also carry this article. Take a look here – there may be other ways to access it via AMU's library:http://icb.oxfordjournals.org/content/17/2/343.full.pdf+html
December 2, 2013 at 4:40 pm #29528Aetheling
ParticipantDecember 2, 2013 at 5:07 pm #29529skiguy
ModeratorAeth, thanks. I had one of those already but I just grabbed the other one. And they all cite the one I want. Don't believe AMU has access to Oxford Journals
December 2, 2013 at 5:27 pm #29530scout1067
ParticipantHave you tried going through EBSCO or ProQuest? AMU has access to both those databases. I would expect EBSCO to have it if either does.
December 2, 2013 at 5:48 pm #29531skiguy
ModeratorNone of them have it. AMU doesn't have the strongest science library.
December 2, 2013 at 7:14 pm #29532Phidippides
KeymasterAre you sure? After doing some searching, I finally found the portal to AMU's journal database. Unfortunately, it doesn't list the names of the journals in public, but it does say that it gives access to some 53,000 journals. The article you're looking for has been cited many times, so it may be important enough that you can access it via AMU.http://www.apus.edu/community-scholars/librarians/
December 2, 2013 at 9:52 pm #29533skiguy
ModeratorI searched all the major databases. It did show the article, but it wasn't available…it just took me to the JSTOR login where I had to pay to view it. I don't think AMU has American Zoologist articles available for students.The thing is over 30 yrs old, I thought stuff like that was more public domain.
December 3, 2013 at 11:48 am #29534scout1067
ParticipantPublic domain is after 85 years or anything government produced if I remember right.
December 3, 2013 at 4:04 pm #29535Phidippides
KeymasterFor documents/images, they have to have been created before around 1922. There are some other exceptions as well. I believe the owner of the copyright to the movie “It's a Wonderful Life” lost it a few decades ago (somehow), which is why it's now played so often on TV around Christmastime.
December 3, 2013 at 6:14 pm #29536scout1067
ParticipantHey Ski, here is another idea. Contact the AMU librarian with the citation data for the article you need. They can usually get it for you. The librarians there are great and if they don't have it they can get it. I abused the heck out of them while doing my thesis, so much that I was on a first name basis with one of them. They get some amazing stuff. They managed to get me digital copies of newspapers rom Berlin, Vienna, and London for specific days in 1866. I guarantee they can get you a 30 year old journal article.
December 3, 2013 at 6:45 pm #29537Phidippides
KeymasterHey Ski, here is another idea. Contact the AMU librarian with the citation data for the article you need. They can usually get it for you. The librarians there are great and if they don't have it they can get it. I abused the heck out of them while doing my thesis, so much that I was on a first name basis with one of them. They get some amazing stuff. They managed to get me digital copies of newspapers rom Berlin, Vienna, and London for specific days in 1866. I guarantee they can get you a 30 year old journal article.
I second this. I just remembered seeing that AMU offers interlibrary loan, and I know that you can request journal articles that way. In fact, it would probably be done pretty quickly, and they'll likely send it in electronic form. It's really easy to do.
December 3, 2013 at 10:10 pm #29538skiguy
ModeratorI found it!
December 4, 2013 at 4:25 am #29539Aetheling
ParticipantI found it!
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