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November 14, 2006 at 2:06 am #399
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KeymasterI saw a great show last night on the History Channel called The Battle for Rome. Decent special effects, good acting, great sets, and much more than the 10 or so extras you might see in a “battle” sequence in other historical event depictions.So anyway, the show gave various episodes in the history of ancient Rome. One of these was Vespasian's conquest of Rome and his subsequent sending of his son, Titus, to Jerusalem. It occurred to me that the Romans replaced skill and strategy with brute force. They surrounded Jerusalem and could not get past her walls. The walls were simply too high, too deep, and too thick. The Romans also could not starve the Jews out because food was still being sent in somehow. So what does Titus do? He builds a 4-mile wall around Rome to make sure nothing gets in (or out)! A little over-the-top, don't you think? Whereas the Jews were ingenious when they dug a tunnel under their own wall to burn the Roman siege tower, the Romans used predictable warfare techniques to defeat the Jews. And of course, as well all know the Romans sacked Jerusalem and the temple. I didn't know how the Romans had acted during the siege, but now that I know I think I've lost a little respect for them. I thought they would have used more intelligence in their siege.
November 14, 2006 at 2:45 am #7048Stumpfoot
ParticipantSounds like a good one, I will have to see if they are going to air it again.
November 22, 2006 at 4:17 am #7049rhino56
ParticipantThe rise and fall of Rome certainly had everything to do with its leaders and military leaders. They assumed that they were invincible, which turned out to be a deadly assumption.
November 22, 2006 at 5:59 am #7050DonaldBaker
ParticipantThe rise and fall of Rome certainly had everything to do with its leaders and military leaders. They assumed that they were invincible, which turned out to be a deadly assumption.
Well in terms of their external enemies, the Romans were pretty much invincible. It's when they turned on themselves and stagnated culturally, the barbarian hordes overwhelmed them. The same process occurred in the Eastern Empire and the Turks chopped away at them.
November 22, 2006 at 6:24 am #7051Stumpfoot
ParticipantWell in terms of their external enemies, the Romans were pretty much invincible. It's when they turned on themselves and stagnated culturally, the barbarian hordes overwhelmed them. The same process occurred in the Eastern Empire and the Turks chopped away at them.
Good post Donnie. Do you think thats a common theme in the decline of most empires?
November 22, 2006 at 5:00 pm #7052DonaldBaker
ParticipantGood post Donnie. Do you think thats a common theme in the decline of most empires?
Absolutely. Not much to do with one's empire after all has been conquered but to begin quarreling among themselves and get fat and lazy......or discover a wonderful new religion like Christianity that changes the entire course of the empire. 😉
November 22, 2006 at 5:42 pm #7053rhino56
ParticipantI would agree that not only is it a common theme in civilizations on a large scale but also right down to a small scale of a marriage.
November 22, 2006 at 8:40 pm #7054Stumpfoot
ParticipantDivide and conquer! not only do we have enemies that do it, but we can do it to ourselves sometimes without even realizing it.
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