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April 24, 2010 at 12:17 am #2141
Wally
ParticipantCouldn't resist, likely too easy but still couldn't resist.Can anyone name this fellow?,
April 24, 2010 at 1:52 am #20668willyD
ParticipantDO NOT KNOW–Lions PASSANT (better rampant) suggest an English King, but crown and costume are strange to me. PROBABLY ENGLISH–RICHARD I or later
April 24, 2010 at 2:01 am #20669skiguy
ModeratorI say Richard I as well because of the 3 lions on his shield.
April 24, 2010 at 2:13 am #20670Phidippides
KeymasterI must say that's an interesting crown he's wearing.
April 24, 2010 at 3:21 am #20671Wally
ParticipantPre-dates Richard; picture is from the 18th century though.A hint? see below:
April 24, 2010 at 5:55 am #20672Aetheling
ParticipantKing Arthur with Excalibur
April 24, 2010 at 2:14 pm #20673Wally
ParticipantThe fellow was not a literary construct, the clue below is subtle but telling, perhaps.Not the same sheild as in the original hint... a later version.Sadly, Phid, according to legend the crown was melted down.
April 24, 2010 at 2:31 pm #20674willyD
ParticipantWally:Sword and shield are red herrings and Arthur was not a King at all--merely a legend and lots of movies.If that twig he is holding is a sword then I am a carrot. FAKE FAKE I want my union rep.
April 24, 2010 at 2:54 pm #20675Aetheling
ParticipantHenry II, aka Henri Curtmantle, the first of the House of Plantagenet : King of England (1154?1189), Count of Anjou, Count of Maine, Duke of Normandy, Duke of Aquitaine, Duke of Gascony, Count of Nantes, Lord of Ireland. The first to use the title "King of England" (as opposed to "King of the English")
April 24, 2010 at 3:27 pm #20676Wally
ParticipantGentlemen, the first image is an 18th century engraving (posted on wikipedia)… likely somewhat stylized, as would be expected for the period, of Brian Boru; died 23-April 1014 in the Battle of Clontarf.The sword is a clue as it is on the O'Brien crest at the top... not quite visible in the second hint photo.The lions are significant because in the later O'Brien crest they are half gold and half silver. Originally they were all gold as the engraving portrays but in 1543 when Henry VIII conquered Ireland he gave Murrough O'Brien the choice: loose the lions or make them half silver (as Hank had 3 gold lions on his coat of arms) Murrough chose to divide, and, keep them. In addition Murrough was made the 1st Earl of Thomond and the 1st Baron of Inchiquin.The O'Brien's are the only clan in the BE allowed to bear the Royal arms and dress their servants in scarlet livery, as they were not raised to Earldom from something lower but entered peerage having been the Sovereigns of an independent kingdom.The crown, according to legend had been given (along with Brian's sword, shield, scepter, ring, and harp) to the Pope when Brian's son, Donough went on a pilgrimage to Rome. All were subsequently returned to the family except the scepter (unconfirmed) and the crown... said to have been melted down and made into something else as a gift to Henry VIII.(info from: http://www.obrienclan.org.uk/id23.htm)
April 24, 2010 at 3:40 pm #20677Aetheling
ParticipantToo easy !
April 24, 2010 at 3:49 pm #20678willyD
ParticipantGentlemen, the first image is an 18th century engraving (posted on wikipedia)… likely somewhat stylized, as would be expected for the period, of Brian Boru; died 23-April 1014 in the Battle of Clontarf.My face is ruddy!
April 24, 2010 at 3:53 pm #20679Wally
Participant:-[Sorry, I forget that my habit (developed while teaching) of checking wiki every day for events and other factoids (that could used for sponge activities at the beginning of class) isn't normal behavior for most folks.
April 24, 2010 at 8:38 pm #20680Wally
ParticipantPlease accept this as a prize for your collective efforts in the quest:Brian Boru's March
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