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September 3, 2010 at 3:51 am #2370
Notch
ParticipantWestern Civ I class… my paper is going to cover the Greek/Persian Wars. Found three good Osprey books at the base library here.One is by Jack Cassin-Scott, the second by Philip de Sousa, and a third on Thermopylae by Nic Fields. A fourth source is Herodotus (using George Rawlinsons translation at http://classics.mit.edu/Herodotus/history.html).Any websites that have possibly an alternate or a road less traveled viewpoint that y'all are aware of?
September 3, 2010 at 6:08 am #22243scout1067
ParticipantIf you can get them look at N.G.L. Hammond's History of Ancient Greece to 122 B.C., Victor Hanson's The Western Way of War, and Chester Starr's The Influence of Seapower on Ancient History. All are pretty good accounts hat touch on the political and military aspects of the Persian Wars. As to specific websites, maybe Ski could point you in the right direction, he is our resident Greek expert.
September 3, 2010 at 6:48 am #22244Phidippides
KeymasterWhat aspect of the Greek/Persian wars are you looking at?
September 3, 2010 at 10:13 am #22245skiguy
ModeratorAre you covering the whole war or just specific battles? What is your thesis? If your school has access to jstor, there are tons of journals on it. Try to find “History of Greece” by George Grote. It is available on google books. Check out Cambridge Ancient History 2nd Edition, vol IV too if that's available at your library.Also http://www.livius.org/greece.html is a very good website.
September 3, 2010 at 10:50 am #22246DonaldBaker
ParticipantPlease refrain from using website sources if you can. Books is where it's at so I'm told.
September 3, 2010 at 11:06 am #22247skiguy
ModeratorTroll alert!!
Please refrain from using website sources if you can. Books is where it's at so I'm told.
Don't take the bait. 😀 😀
September 3, 2010 at 12:15 pm #22248arbarnhart
ParticipantYeah, what book will show you blood flying around like this?http://www.history.com/shows/battles-bc/videos#battles-bc-battle-at-marathon 😮 ;D
September 3, 2010 at 1:09 pm #22249Notch
ParticipantI'm not sure about a thesis yet… Xerxes reasons for amassing such force against small Greece, the rise of Themistocles and the Greek navy during this period, the effects on Greeces future by the almost 300 years of conflict with the Persians… Really, just not sure… it's a small paper… only has to be 6 pages.. so I know I cannot get into great detail and need to focus in on a specific thesis… Can't use Thermopylae since that was my in class essay last week.And Don, as for websites, this instructor is keen on the web, so he is almost expecting online sources. 🙂
September 3, 2010 at 2:31 pm #22250Phidippides
KeymasterAnd Don, as for websites, this instructor is keen on the web, so he is almost expecting online sources. 🙂
Ha! Looks like it's Web 1, Donnie 0. I think to rub it in for Donnie, I will suggest this as a "'source" for the paper as well. ;DActually, it sounds like you could still take any number of angles - political, cultural, economic. I had just read somewhere that the battle with the Persians was a watershed moment for Western Civilization because after that point, Greece thought of itself as "separate" from the East which then changed the course of Europe forever. Also, the conflict (e.g. the sack of the Acropolis) enabled Athens to refashion itself physically in a way that reflected particular Athenian ideals, so in a sense the Persians did Greece (and Europe?) a favor. I think there are several theses that could be gleamed from here that would be fun...
September 3, 2010 at 3:52 pm #22251skiguy
ModeratorThe Ionian Revolt is also a fascinating angle.
September 4, 2010 at 3:52 am #22252DonaldBaker
ParticipantBaaa!!! You can't touch me! I have force fields around my Ivory Tower. 🙂
September 4, 2010 at 6:22 pm #22253Notch
ParticipantWell, I think I am going to write about the significance of Greek military victory during the Greek-Persian Wars between 490 – 479 BC to include Marathon, Thermopylae, Artemision, Salamis, Plataea, and Mycale.Off I go.... 😀
September 5, 2010 at 6:30 pm #22254arbarnhart
ParticipantWell, I think I am going to write about the significance of Greek military victory during the Greek-Persian Wars between 490 - 479 BC to include Marathon, Thermopylae, Artemision, Salamis, Plataea, and Mycale.Off I go.... 😀
Just in case my earlier feeble attempt at humor:
Yeah, what book will show you blood flying around like this?http://www.history.com/shows/battles-bc/videos#battles-bc-battle-at-marathon 😮 ;D
came across as just a joke, there actually is some legitimate information about Marathon in the short video. I am not sure how respected Richard Gabriel is in the field, but he is the poster child for getting excited about history. Not so much in that clip, but some of the other stuff I have seen him in you can tell he is in awe of great strategists. They do "dumb it down" a bit, but I'm okay with that. ;DI love those narrations that sound like movie ads - "It all begins on the blood soaked plains of Marathon"...
September 7, 2010 at 9:14 pm #22255Notch
ParticipantFinished my paper last night… ended up writing on the significance of the Battle of Marathon… Seriously, this paper has taken so many turns… I was initially going to write on Martin Luther, then Joan of Arc and this is where I ended up… LOL… funny how that works…I found a lot of good infromation but most of my citations were from Herodotus... Found some excellent versions of Histories online...Anyway... just thought I would share.. 🙂
September 13, 2010 at 8:53 pm #22256Notch
ParticipantFor those interested, I got a 95% on my Battle of Marathon paper … Midterm tomorrow, then a final essay on Elizabeth I
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