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July 3, 2007 at 8:56 pm #762
skiguy
ModeratorWhat's the most common style used for essay/research papers? Does it depend on the subject? Instructor?I just picked up a few books: Hacker's Guide, Strunk's Elements of Style, and the MLA Handbook.ay yi yi - there's a lot to learn here! 😮
July 3, 2007 at 9:25 pm #9170Stumpfoot
ParticipantStrunks is considered one of the best by both fiction and non-fiction wrietes. Its small but it packs alot into those pages.
July 4, 2007 at 3:09 am #9171DonaldBaker
ParticipantYou might want to get a copy of Kate L. Turabian's handbook for writers. The Chicago Manual style (Turabian) is preferred in most History departments. Political Science writers bounce between MLA and Turabian, but some use American Psychology style…which sucks btw. I prefer Turabian now that I got weened off of MLA. ;D
July 7, 2007 at 10:06 pm #9172skiguy
ModeratorYou might want to get a copy of Kate L. Turabian's handbook for writers. The Chicago Manual style (Turabian) is preferred in most History departments. Political Science writers bounce between MLA and Turabian, but some use American Psychology style...which sucks btw. I prefer Turabian now that I got weened off of MLA. ;D
I'll pick that up, thanks! Why does ASA suck? Is it because of the way it looks?And why do they all use different citation regulations??? >:( That's stupid. How do "ibid" a different page number? Ibid. p. 27 (for example)?
July 8, 2007 at 9:32 pm #9173DonaldBaker
ParticipantHow do “ibid” a different page number? Ibid. p. 27 (for example)?
The way I do ibids are:Ibid., 57.I only use one space after the comma. 🙂
December 13, 2007 at 3:45 am #9174Phidippides
KeymasterI'm glad this page was here. I'm needing to write footnotes in a paper I'm currently on and I'm using Turabian, but needed to find how to do subsequent citations. Now I see it uses Ibid….here's a source for further reference:http://www.libs.uga.edu/ref/turabian.htmlWriting legal papers uses Id. for subsequent citations, which is actually an abbreviation for Ibid (if you can believe a four-letter word needs an abbreviation!).
December 13, 2007 at 9:46 am #9175skiguy
ModeratorGood link. Univ of Wisconsin has some good links too. Have to do Chicago for history. (just when I was starting to get the hang of MLA)
December 14, 2007 at 1:04 am #9176DonaldBaker
ParticipantGood link. Univ of Wisconsin has some good links too. Have to do Chicago for history. (just when I was starting to get the hang of MLA)
Told ya so. 🙂
December 14, 2007 at 1:47 am #9177skiguy
ModeratorAnd I should have listened. :-[ (well, MLA was a requirement in that other class anyway. So that's my excuse)BTW, got a 100 on my first history quiz. (even got the Peloponnesian War question correct) Thank you for being here Western Civ forum!!
December 31, 2007 at 8:04 pm #9178skiguy
ModeratorHow would you do this?Should I go:In the text taken from the Cyrus Cylinder (discovered in 1879 by Hormonz Rassam during excavations at Babylon),or should I footnote it?In the text taken from the Cyrus Cylinder11discovered in 1879 by Hormonz Rassam during excavations at BabylonAnd, if I want to quote sections from the Cyrus Cylinder, doI have to cite it? If so, how?
January 1, 2008 at 12:07 am #9179DonaldBaker
ParticipantFootnote things like that as much as you can. If you mention something, anything from an accredited source, you have to give a citation unless it's common knowledge and not necessarily an original idea from the source you're using. If in doubt, cite.
May 27, 2008 at 12:46 pm #9180scout1067
ParticipantFootnotes should always be at the end of a sentence. Never put a footnote into the middle of the sentence. It breaks the folw of the sentence, I now that if I was grading papers that would be a huge gig. the footnote should always be at the end of the sentence to which the footnote is referring.
May 31, 2008 at 10:14 pm #9181Phidippides
KeymasterFootnotes should always be at the end of a sentence. Never put a footnote into the middle of the sentence. It breaks the folw of the sentence, I now that if I was grading papers that would be a huge gig. the footnote should always be at the end of the sentence to which the footnote is referring.
Then tell me....how would you write a sentence in which you take from the argument of a secondary source for part of the sentence but not for the second half of it? For example,"The House of Octavius Quartio was used in Cult of Osiris fertility rituals1, suggesting that Egyptian religious influence extended well into the heart of the Roman Empire."I just made that up but you can see how the first part references an outside source and the second part references an authors (mine) analysis.
May 31, 2008 at 11:47 pm #9182DonaldBaker
ParticipantFootnote goes at the end as always and you can add “emphasis mine” if you italicize your words to distinguish them from the secondary source. The only time you want a footnote in the middle of a sentence is when you want the reader to stop immediately and read a point about whatever it is you have footnoted such as a person's name or a place name etc….Usually this is done to denote that such and such a person is not so and so or not to be confused with someone else etc…This can be awkward at times and shouldn't be overdone. Just use discretion where possible.
June 1, 2008 at 10:05 am #9183skiguy
Moderator"The House of Octavius Quartio was used in Cult of Osiris fertility rituals"1, suggesting that Egyptian religious influence extended well into the heart of the Roman Empire.
What if you did it this way?
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