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DonaldBaker
ParticipantOh didn't you guys know? The Boy Souts are a paramilitary organization that breeds future domestic terrorists. Notice they wear brown shirts? Come on, can't you see the connection to Hitler's Brown Shirts? Ooooh and they also pledge allegiance to God — we can't have that now can we? The Boy Scouts of America is nothing but a right-wing Christian Fundamentalist paramilitary organization teaching kids how to be the next Tim McVeigh.It blows my mind that there are people (and government agencies *cough*) that believe this to some degree.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantThere has to be some Rottweiler in the woodpile somewhere. The head and jaws bear a striking resemblance.
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ParticipantI think the demarcation of Prehistory to History is fluid as the archeological record reveals newer information. Since things are in a state of flux, it is more or less a guideline to help simplify and package History into recognizable epochs for concentration. Writing is obviously the signpost of man's promotion into civilization. I would say it is the single most important factor in determining where Prehistory ends. However, it doesn't have to be the only thing. For historians, the written record is where we ultimately get our knowledge, but for archaeologists, tool making might be their greatest signpost, or agriculture/animal husbandry etc…. Remember that oral traditions are a record of sorts too, but historians cannot verify authenticity, authorship, and accuracy with these kinds of accounts. Obviously art predates writing, and is yet another form of creative expression that might be used as a marker, but again, authenticity, authorship, and accuracy are much more difficult to pin down. On a side note, what constitutes the "modern era?" Where do you draw the cutoff in technological terms? What was the era before the "modern era?" It's the same situation isn't it?
DonaldBaker
ParticipantHello and welcome to the forum. Here is what you need if you have some spare cash handy.http://www.amazon.com/Nation-Nations-Narrative-American-Republic/dp/0072996315
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ParticipantI need a dose of that right about now. 🙂
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ParticipantWell I had my first day of classes today (as instructor and student). In the survey class I'm teaching, I have about 110 students (though I'm not sure how many actually showed up today). But it was great. I'm looking forward to the semester.
Awesome! Since you are the guinea pig, we can all learn from your mistakes when our turn comes. 🙂
DonaldBaker
ParticipantI love me some wool fitted baseball caps sporting my favorite team. Back in the day I popped for $25.00 a cap, but now I can't afford such luxuries anymore.
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ParticipantThe Confederacy had a hard enough time feeding its soldiers much less its horses and mules. Once the Western part of the Confederacy was cut off and isolated, the ability to maintain supplies became a logistical nightmare.
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ParticipantI heard a historian mention something about ancient Egypt which was quite interesting. He said that Egypt in itself was not really all that great as a foundational civilization within the larger framework of Western Civ. While it impressed other ancient peoples (the Greeks, Romans) with its grand pyramids or whatnot, Egypt did not really make any original, long-lasting contributions to the West. Contributions that it did make were more like modifications or rehashings of previous contributions made by other peoples.He went on to say that some of the modern-day interest in the "importance" of Egypt has come about because of the rise in black consciousness in 20th century North America. I think this position argues both that Egyptian civilization was actually "African" rather than "Western" and that it was a foundational civilization. So basically, if Egypt was both fundamentally-important and African that was later taken over by the West, then Western Civ is built partly on African contributions.Your thoughts?
Greek mythology is based on Egypt's. The Greeks revered the Egyptians because their civilization was much older than theirs. Outside of that influence, I'm not sure the Egyptians contributed much else to Western culture. Often, the Egyptians ended up on the losing side of cultural battles that did influence the West. They always ended up under the thumb of a foreign power whether it was Persia, Greece, Rome, or Islam. In all examples, they ended up assimilating into the cultures that came to dominate them.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantI'm going on record as saying the Hyksos were actually Hittites. There is som archaelogical evidence for this and other scholars have made the supposistion. Do a Google for Hyksos and Hittites and you'll start seeing some books discussing it.
The Hyksos were Semitic-speaking while the Hittites were Indo-European speaking. So unless there was some major language split that developed over the span of only a few centuries, I am not sure how the theory that the two groups were the same could be reconciled.
Just watched a show last night on History channel that makes the claim the Hyskos were the Jews. Something with the timing of a volcano/the plagues of Egypt/crossing the Red Sea. (the claim was standard consensus has it off by about 100 yrs or so) Don't know if it makes any sense, but it was interesting.
So since the Hyksos invaded and occupied Egypt c. 1700 B.C., that means that the Jews conquered the Egyptians? I dunno about that...sounds like they'd have to rewrite the history books if that theory were true.
How long does it take to assimilate into a culture? Could not the Hyksos have assimilated first and then conquered later? I'm just throwing that out there for thought as I don't really know myself.
August 15, 2010 at 8:38 pm in reply to: Has intelligence changed since civilization? Will it change further? #22076DonaldBaker
ParticipantPaul runs into this in the Book of Acts when he engages the sophists on the Areapagus. The Greeks didn't want to offend the gods (if they were indeed up there on Olympus) to the point that they erected a monument dedicated to the unknown god (basically whomever they might have left out). Paul marvels at the religiosity of the Greeks and then uses it as a segway into introducing the Gospel. My point is that even in Roman occupied Greece, devotion still held sway in Greek society.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantI would like to see movies made about John Hunt Morgan (Confederate Calvary Raider who “invaded” the North), James Madison, George Whitefield, and Ronald Reagan.
August 15, 2010 at 3:00 pm in reply to: Has intelligence changed since civilization? Will it change further? #22073DonaldBaker
ParticipantIf you read Plato, he seems to indicate that the philosophers didn't buy into the mythology of the gods, but saw it as a civic religion beneficial to the structure and order of the state more than anything else. I'm sure many of the more educated Greeks saw it this way too, and only revered the gods as a cultural tradition more so than a true religion. The lower classes probably had greater faith in their gods I suspect. Probably because they were more dependent on the fortunes of nature because their livelihood was closely tied to the sea and land. Of course everything I just said would be difficult to prove.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantGet ready for the full body scan when you go. LOL
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ParticipantIf the source offers no real help to your thesis, I would cull it immediately and move on. If it does help, it has to be corroborated by other sources because it can't stand alone unless it is the only verifiable source that can be cited on the subject (which is rare).
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