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DonaldBaker
ParticipantIf there is ever a nuclear event anywhere in the world, you can bet the world will change that day.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantThis debate has been very informative and stimulating. Both sides have argued well I think.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantBlame Jefferson Davis for that. Davis would never allow Lee to abandon Richmond. He would have sacked him just as soon as he tried. Besides, Lee was going to defend his home state at all costs as he was very section minded.
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ParticipantSomeone pm me if you need me to step in and lock this thread. 😉
What good would that do? Scout and I both can unlock it. LOL
DonaldBaker
ParticipantI simply cannot agree with what you're saying. Armies cannot win wars without civilian support. It's just not possible.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantSo explain how medieval monarchs put down peasant revolts with the support of the people? The people who were rebelling supported the monarch? Explain impressment into the British army of the Napoleonic wars.
I thought we were talking about armies and war efforts?
DonaldBaker
ParticipantIt is called preparedness for preparedness's sake. You could also call it not taking freedom for granted. But then, I did voluntarily put my life on the line in service to my country. If I were to be really offensive I would say that nobody who has not voluntarily risked their lives for others even has a right to be having this conversation. A foxhole is a very different place than in front of a computer spouting off about chem-trails the trilateral and such. Of course, I am not saying that though.
I really can't make hide or hair or what you're saying to be honest.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantRome, the Bolsheviks, Just about every Medieval Army, and most ancient ones. Try something better than that. Or better yet, admit that you might be wrong on this.
Absolutely wrong sir. All of those groups had support of the people or at least the majority otherwise they would not have succeeded.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantNo war is waged on rational calculations and the belief that one side is in the right. We may hope for victory but we do not count on it. Good armies make their own luck and must not count on hope to deliver victory to them.
No army has ever won without the support of the people.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantA fully armed and dangerous lamb at that and you will not find me in the slaughterhouse. That would be pacifists and cowards that will end up there because they are too proud or whatever to fight for their liberty. I don't want to start a fight or flame war or anything so will now bow out.
Who are you going to fight? If there is no conspiracy to take your liberty going on, what have you to prep for? I'm confused.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantHope is not a strategy as many people more famous than me have pointed out.
Without it there is no war effort, therefore, it is fundamental to any war planner.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantLike a lamb being led to the slaughter…….
DonaldBaker
ParticipantThat would be a snooze fest wouldn't you think?
DonaldBaker
ParticipantIn case you didn't get it, that last post was in jest.
To be honest I've kinda lost interest in Ron Paul. I mean I love the guy to death, but he has had his time in the limelight. I'm watching Rand Paul very closely right now. If he's not just an opportunist trying to make a name for himself, he might be a viable presidential candidate. But I won't derail this thread on that subject.
DonaldBaker
ParticipantWhoa whoa whoa! You just threw one of the best allegories of realty of all time under the bus! If you didn't recognize the genius of Plato's approach (read: Socratic method) then you are missing out on one of the greats in the history of Western philosophy. Oh, and Plato is much more readable than Aristotle because of it, IMO. I see that you are still chained to the inside of the cave. ???
No Plato was a loser. Paul took his Theory of the Forms and turned it on its head in Corinthians. I wrote a paper on it in Seminary.
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