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Phidippides
KeymasterRight – Western Civ classes will mostly pertain to history as it began with the Mesopotamian and Nile River settlements, through Greece and Rome, and European development and expansion into North and South America (and other parts of the world). They won't include histories of the East or Africa except as it relates to Western civilizations.I don't think that these classes will cover the Middle East at all except for early settlements (e.g. the birth of Judaism). If you're looking for a comprehensive history of the Middle East from beginning to current times you may want to find a specialized course in that area.
Phidippides
KeymasterYou dont think organized street gangs have motive and intent?
Yes, they do have motive and intent, but it differs from motive and intent of WTC bombers or Timothy McVeigh types. As far as I know street gangs are not engaged in crime to make political or ideological statements or to make the government change its policies in one way or another. Perhaps I should have said "the distinguishing element" rather than "the missing element".
and why would street gangs not be considered terrorists?
I don't think they would be terrorists because of what I said above - their motive and intent. It's not beneficial to label all organized crime "terrorism", but it's also not beneficial to label true terrorists as ordinary criminals.
Phidippides
KeymasterJust found this today. Neptune is experiencing GW as well. Look at the chart on the page too. Shows the same climate cycle as ours. (too bad NYG is leaving for the summer)http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2007/05/08/neptune-news
I liked the line from the blog, "As they say on Neptune, global warming has become an inconvenient truth."
Phidippides
KeymasterI saw more stories on Drudge today which are relevant to this issue.The first is the "ark" being built by Greenpeace. Who says the GW scare doesn't echo of "religious" fervor?The second is a story of increased numbers of scientists backing down from anthropomorphic blame for GW. What I thought was interesting about the article is that it mentions the media's role in this whole matter, which I think ought to be explored in greater depth.
Phidippides
KeymasterI think that DHS quote is good to help shape the definition of terrorism but isn't the actual definition itself. For example, a gun-toting thug on the street could use intimidation toward a shop owner that refuses to sell his buddies some drinks. I think that scale has something to do with it as well. It said ELF or ALF had set some 1200 fires, which is a large scale effort. Notice how street gangs (e.g. Bloods and Crips) also use organization, intimidation, and illegal acts in the course of their activities. The missing element? Motive & intent.
Phidippides
KeymasterI don't think that should be considered terrorism.but thisis questionable. Was this just a power line to Vail Ski Resort (grrr :x) or another business? Or was this a main power line for a population of people?I think an act would be defined as terrorism if they vandalized power plants or other utilities.
But Ski, didn't you read the following:
Prosecutors want Judge Ann Aiken to declare the group terrorists ? something defense attorneys argue has never happened in 1,200 arsons nationwide claimed by Earth Liberation Front and Animal Liberation Front.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070515/ap_on_re_us/arson_pleas_5;_ylt=Agwm2oZ6i30Xqc1S7xatPvgE1vAIIf you were to take away the particular ideological motives for a second and just look at the facts, you'd have a covert group of individuals which discretely acts within an organized structure attempting to intimidate and/or inflict heavy financial losses on non-combatant citizens through illegal means for distinctively ideological ends. I think the "1200 arsons" part from above is significant of itself.
Phidippides
KeymasterThe question of whether a form of eco-terrorism can properly be considered “terrorism” under law by a judge in the near future. Arsonists, yes. But are they terrorists? I think that this issue is therefore timely and we'll get a new perspective on it in the near future.
Phidippides
KeymasterDo you have a link to where you saw the story about Civil War reenactors in Europe? I'd be interested in reading about it. I wonder if it's done by American transplants over in Europe. There any number of soldiers stationed at bases over there.Otherwise, it could just be due to fascination with history. Just as Americans have a fascination with European history, there might be some fascination with our history as well. After all, we are Europe's creation, aren't we?
Phidippides
KeymasterI think it's clear that the Industrial Revolution has changed society more if we look at all of history, but the original question dealt with change of 19th Century America only. So separating the effects of the IR from the 20th Century (e.g. no internet, no planes, largely no automobiles, etc) from the effects that were experienced during the 19th Century, the answer is different. In other words, if you were a commoner living from 1830 to 1890, what would have had a bigger change on society from your perspective? As I mentioned previously, I think the answer would depend on where you lived in America.
Phidippides
KeymasterI think I'd be more afraid of Donnie spraying my walls with bullets than spray paint…..have you seen his personal arsenal? He takes full advantage of his Second Amendment rights….
Phidippides
KeymasterLet me mention what I mentioned over there. The Civil War and Reconstruction likely had a larger social effect on parts of the South than the Industrial Revolution. In this sense, it is the thing that was more influential. At a localized level the CW/Recon. was a shift in political, economic, and cultural norms. In rural or agrarian areas the Industrial Revolution would have been less pronounced than in other, more urbanized areas. However, I do think that overall the Industrial Revolution led to greater social change in America. It also led to significant changes across the spectrum in economics, politics, and culture, as likely in religion as well. Trade was made more efficient by the changes brought from the IR, America as a nation was able to prosper, and militarily it developed to the strong point it was at by the time of the Spanish American War. Simply put, I don't think that the Civil War/Reconstruction affected the entire nation in the same way that the Industrial Revolution did.
Phidippides
KeymasterSo far, so good. Now I have a few recommendations I can give. I was going to ask whether or not Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States was any good until I started reading the Amazon review of the book:
Addressing his trademark reversals of perspective, Zinn--a teacher, historian, and social activist for more than 20 years--explains, "My point is not that we must, in telling history, accuse, judge, condemn Columbus in absentia. It is too late for that; it would be a useless scholarly exercise in morality...
Phidippides
KeymasterI recall reading about a Chinese map but I thought it was of uncertain origin and there was criticism raised that it was a fake. I believe this issue has been raised within the last few years.
Phidippides
KeymasterDid Christophe Colombus really discover America. There must of been others before him the vikings or maybe the chinese from the other side of the world. ❓
Ok i am only 13 but i know it was named after Amerigo Vesspuci
Phidippides
KeymasterDon't know about the 1812 war. The last raids were in 1836. My G-G Grandfather captured an Indian child who was with the war party. He gave to child to a Terrell County family to raise. I have no idea why a child was with the war party. All this is written up in History of Stewart County Georgia Vol 11.
Anyway to check and see if that child had a lineage which continues to this day?
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