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That's pretty interesting stuff. I'm guessing you've seen Gangs of New York. What did you think of it? Honestly, I don't think I had learned about the New York riots as a reaction against the Union's draft during the Civil War. What the movie showed was really quite interesting, including the government's brutal response to the uncontrollable riots. Last summer a cousin took me to Manhatten and showed me the wall and the church which were depicted in that movie in the Five Points area (right near that Mott/Mulberry Street area). Today the location is right in the Little Italy/Chinatown area. It's worth a visit if you're ever in that area.
Yes, I think that that the desire for power can be a form of greed. However, I'd normally place greed as the desire for money and/or material wealth, whereas the desire for power is the desire to control people, their way of life (and property). I think Hitler's problem was that he was clearly after power; bringing the holocaust to the Jews cannot be described in any way other than the desire to exercise power by one race over another. I think that Napoleon, too, might have had a power trip. His leadership abilities (which I touch on in this thread) suggest this. Of course, I'm not saying that Napoleon was on the same level as Hitler, merely that both leaders preferred power over wealth.In another class are leaders who, as you suggest, are "desirous of lifting his fellow man...into a better position in life". Perhaps a person like Che Guevara - whether one disagrees with him or not - falls into this category. Is this the kind of person you were thinking of?
Sounds like you've got two concepts here. Why didn't you say “power”? I'll have to think and try to see if I can get a good example of desire for power without greed. Perhaps the two go hand in hand so well that they are inseparable. Well, that's not entirely true; examples of Napoleon's invasion of Russia, or even Hitler's invasion of it, suggest that desire for power can be separated from greed.
Sounds like you're a big Civil War/Post-CW fan. Do you prefer straight biographies or books covering historical events?
In the past year or so, I have seen many shows on TV which explore the Davinci Code storyline. They all say in so many words that the story is fictitious. I also saw an episode of Digging for the Truth (on the History Channel) where the guy actually took a bone fragment from a member of the Merovingian royalty for DNA testing purposes. He found that it shared no commonalities with DNA taken from certain people living in the Biblical lands (I think it was in Jerusalem).
So do you see Reconstruction as the first in a long line of excessively grand and wasteful spending programs by the federal government? Would you put it in line with the WPA? Better or worse?
Hey no problem – I moved this to the correct category.You know, I still haven't seen Tombstone, even though the movie is at home near the TV. I've got to get around to watching it sometime soon.
Yes, that other forum is being devoured by spammers as we speak. Think of one of the Raptor scenes from Jurassic Park where they're surrounding their prey and pouncing on it and you'll get the idea. 😮
Something about the war of 1812 and the war with mexico. Also I know some people had problems with them (Gettysberg and Gods and generals) But I would like to see them finish off that trilogy with the last full measure.
I read that Last Full Measure won't be made - at least anytime soon - because of the poor showing of the last one. Ted Turner has apparently given up on it.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0279111/board/nest/33424282
Wow, this is amazing.? While looking up this information, I came across this site, which gives the names of last surviving vets from different wars.? I find it simply amazing that the last widow of a Revolutionary War vet died in 1906.Looks like John Salling was the last Confederate to die in 1958.? However, there's some question as to whether or not he was an imposter.
I saw a show on the History Channel where they made a fort in the style that would have been made by Lewis and Clark's expedition team. It would have been awful doing that with the tools they used on those days, but necessary to do to get out of the elements that they must have encountered from time to time.
I think it might be interesting to read about him, since he was one of the more colorful figures of the American founding. It sounds like he consciously took advantage of his celebrity for political ends…not unlike some modern-day celebrities I might add.
I seem to recall another story of someone associated with the Civil War dying within my lifetime. I believe that the last actual Civil War veteran died in the 1950s (1956 is the year, I think). Pretty amazing when you think of it. Again, he was probably around 15 or so when he fought in the war (perhaps in the last year of it), which would make him around 100 by the time he dies. Could you imagine fighting in the Civil War and then surviving 80 years to hear about the atomic bomb being used in a war?
The movie was shallow in parts…obviously Hollywood creeps into history at times. They also noted somewhere (perhaps I saw it on the History Channel) that flaming rocks would not have been thrown from trebuchets…..they probably used them in the movie because they go “boom” and fire makes for exciting cinema.
Welcome aboard, Stumpfoot! Glad to see you could make it! If I could only own one book - this would be a hard one. Perhaps it would be Frederick Copleston's History of Philosophy, Vols. I - IX. That would give me the biggest bang for the buck and it would center on the general topic of philosophy (of course, this is kind of cheating). It is an awesome resource, straightfoward and concise, covering the entire span of philosophy throughout the ages.
