B-52, Lots and lots of steel on or at least near the target. plus, I think Arc Light missions are just cool. I got to see a B-52 bombing run once, it was awesome and a sight I will never forget.
Now, based on your answer, you would seem to disagree with the court's view which says the following are constitutional:- Terry stops (stop & frisk based on reasonable suspicion rather than probable cause)- Sobriety checkpoints- School searches of students based on standard lower than probable causeIs this correct?
Yes, you are correct. I am one who thinks my person and property should be inviolate unless and until the government can show probable cause. I dont like cops to begin with, I especially dont like cops who think the law gives them the right to be brutes.Put it like this, If we were living in the 19th century, I would be one of those guys hacking out a homestead in the wilderness,not living in the infested slums of the eastern cities. One of the reasons for this is that I believe in protecting me and mine, and the concept that privacy is everything that I dont want someone else to know unless I decide to tell them. It scares me that the government chooses to arrogate itself the power to decide how and when I should live, travel, associte with, etc., as well as thinking that some government agency knows me better than I do. That is the point of my rant against the Texas CPS taking the FLDS kids a ffew months ago, it is also why I dont like the government being able to pry into my personal affairs.if there is evidence of a crime it is a whole new ball game, but absent this evidence then the government should simply leave me alone in my person and in my house.
Wouldnt you have to explain the Roman conquest of Britain before getting on a role and blaming the Romans leaving for their further Subjugation? I mean the Britons were weak enough that they couldnt fight off the Romans in the first place, if anything the addition of Roman blodd should have made them tougher to defeat in the future.
So then what are your reasons not to include the F-117 or F-14?
Could you really consider the F-117 a fighter? I cant think of an air superiority role for it, too slow, not maneuverable enough. I would say that the F-117 is more of a stealthy ground support/suppression/lightbomber than a fighter aircraft.
It boils down to an argument about what powers we think the state should have. I am a proponent of limited, extremely limited, government. Therefore I think the government should have the minimal number of powers necessary for it to conduct its minimal necessary functions. I will always err on the side of the individual.
I agree with your concerns and don't actually know the government's rationale for needing certain citizen financial records without a showing of probable cause. Therefore I can only speculate why this is. However, there are other situations in which searches may be made without probable cause. Do you think these allowances should have been ruled unconstitutional as well?
Simply, YES! I dont care about circumstances where my personal liberty is concerned and if they do it to one person that means they can do it to me. It does not matter whether they ever actually do it to me or not. This is probably the only issue on which the ACLU and I agree. If I voluntarily surrender private information that is one thing, it is quite another if it is given up for me without my consent and without a warrant.The Constitution clearly states in the Fourth and Fifth Amendments that I have a right to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures and a right to not be deprived of my property without Due Process before the Law. Is not my personal information my property?
Amendment IVThe right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Amendment VNo person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
It seems to me that the Constitution is pretty clear on this and it makes me wonder how and why the Patriot Act has not been struck down yet.
June 12, 2008 at 3:55 pm
in reply to: No WWII#5891
Daniel, I am not arguing emotion. I am arguing the staistics, which you are correct in pointing out dont have empty stomachs. I cannot speak for your Grandparents or mine, I only know what the numbers show, and they show that the economy had begun to grow again by 1937 or 1938, that is when the economic contraction ended for good and the economy began steady growth without excess deficit spending by the government. See the following table found at: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Timeline.htm
Tax Federal GNP Unemp.Year Receipts Spending Growth Rate
While I will agree that 17% unemployment is high it is not excessive. Look at Europe in the last 10 years or so or Asia in the same time frame. I have not argued that WWII did not benefit the economy, I have simply said that WWII did not end the Depression as popular myth would have it.
Society hasn't become like that...yet. I worry more about paying for the fantasy of a "greener" earth. Terrorism is real and can be fought without infringing on our rights. And it should be fought, especially if any have entered the country.
I dont disagree with your sentiment as expressed here. But you still have not answered my question.
Why does the government need the authority to essentially subpoena mine or anybody else's financial records without showing probable cause?
It boils down to an argument about what powers we think the state should have. I am a proponent of limited, extremely limited, government. Therefore I think the government should have the minimal number of powers necessary for it to conduct its minimal necessary functions. I will always err on the side of the individual.
The Bank Secrecy Act for BeginnersThe only thing "new" the Patriot Act did (and the BSA was going on well before the Patriot Act; it started with the War on Drugs) is require banks to ask customer's name, address, SSN, source of income, and a few other standard items of information to identify the customer.
Of course, that is all it did. Why do they NEED it? They didn't seem to have too much trouble ID'ing the 9/11 hijackers before these provisions existed. They would have to monitor everybody if they wanted to stop something like that again. I am not sure I want to live in a society like that.The issue isn't that banks are required to collect this information. The issue is that (insert Federal investigative agency of your choice) can show up to a bank and present a national security letter demanding what should be privileged information and the bank is required to provide it. This despite the fact that there is no provision for judicial or legislative oversight of the National security letter process. This is an obvious violation of due process and probably a 5th Amendment violation as being an unreasonable search and seizure. The feds do not have to show probable cause to issue one of these letters, in fact, they don't go farther than the lowest supervisor for approval. Why does the government need the authority to essentially subpoena mine or anybody else's financial records without showing probable cause? These kind of provisions frankly, scare the pants off me. What is next, commissars? That is not as far fetched an idea as it may seem, I am sure the Russian common man did not know what he was in for when he supported the Bolsheviks, as a matter of fact I know they didn't have a clue as to what they were going to get. If they knew, why did collectivisation have to be imposed? The Bolsheviks made the autocrats look tame by comparison.It is a slippery slope we are on and if people don't guard their rights they are apt to lose them.
June 11, 2008 at 5:03 pm
in reply to: No WWII#5886
The depression was basically over by the time the war started....The notion that American entry into WWII ended the depression is a flase and pernicious myth in American Historiography....The basic facts are there though, The depression was over when the war started. A good argument can be made that Rearmament helped end it but that rests on shaky ground. America did not start seriously rearming until the latter half of 1940, long after employment had started to rise and the worst of the economic downturn was past.
My parents and, of course, grandparents lived through the Great Depression. You'd never convience them the Depression ended before WWII. (One grandfather worked on WPA projects. He didn't talk about it much because--it seemed to me--life was so hard then he even found discussing those years to be painful.)
You probably could not convince my grandparents either, but that does not alter the facts. There are many people who dont believe the holocaust happened despite the proof, does that mean I am obligated to give weight to their arguments no matter how much the facts dispute them?
Following the money trail doesn't mean having the ability to troll anyone's account. That is essentially the power granted to the federal government by the Patriot Act. It is unbelievable the information that can be extorted from private business through the use of a National Security Letter, which are not vetted by any court before they are presented.
There still was the manpower there but not the managerial and logistical system that Rome had to direct it all. Plus once the Romans left, local tribes took over and it would be a long time before any strong leadership would be established in Britain. Hence, Britian's ripeness for the Vikings.
Are you really blaming British "ripeness" for Viking raids on the fact that the Roman Empire debouched from the Island some 400-500 years before the major raids started? Thus leaving the poor pitiful Britons completely unprepared to defend their homes and families. I would come up with an emoticon for incredulous disbelief but I cant think of one with the requisite emotive ability.
Don't discount the ruthlessness of the Russians. They were quite willing to see millions of their own citizens starve if it made the difference between victory and defeat.