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BRB as soon as I get an answer, I'll ask my history professor about this. (and check the book when I get home from work).
skiguyModeratorHow much does a subscription cost and how long is it?
skiguyModeratorI think it's interesting that there weren't more major slave revolts in the ancient world.
Maybe because it wasn't as bad as we think it was for them. They were offered and gave protection too. Or maybe because, as my professor hinted at, there's not much recorded history about it.Candy-coating perhaps, but the fact that owning a slave is not considered a sin in the Bible kind of throws a wrench in my over-analytical mind.Question: Were they paid or provided with food/shelter and other basic necessities?
skiguyModeratorIt's not bad. I thought I had better links, but most are for MLA.The reference to the book section is 17.2.7.Are you comfortable with print journals? It says follow the same guidelines as those, and then what I posted earlier.Are notes optional?
skiguyModeratorHmm, I don't think a page number is needed.
Journal article published online16. Linda Belau, "Trauma and the Material Signifier," PostmodernCulture 11, no. 2 (2001): par. 6, http://www.iath.virginia.edu/pmc/text-only/issue.101/11.2belau.txt.Belau, Linda. "Trauma and the Material Signifier." Postmodern Culture11, no. 2 (2001). http://www.iath.virginia.edu/pmc/text-only/issue.101/11.2belau.txt.
http://www.dianahacker.com/resdoc/p04_c10_s2.htmlHere's word for word from the book about Journal Articles Published Online:"Articles in online journals might not include page numbers, especially if they are not published in parallel print journals. If page numbers are not available, you may identify the location of a cited passage in a paranthetical citation by adding a decriptive locator (such as a preceding subheading) following the word under."Some other links:http://www.wisc.edu/writing/Handbook/DocChicago.htmlhttp://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/tools_citationguide.html
skiguyModeratorI don't disagree with any of that. Good point about ignoring things for exam taking. That's why I like timelines. There's difficulty in grasping events or eras in my mind because there's so many overlapping incidents. Need visuals!Dates are very important., I'm not saying they aren't, just to what degree. One has to know the Mycenaens came before the Dark Age before you can answer why the Dark Age occured, but is it super important to know the Mycenaen civilization flourished between 1600-1100 B.C. ? Maybe in a Ancient Greek History class it is, but not so much an intro class.
skiguyModeratorI think that knowing the "whys" of history and the influences between various events/people will be more important than memorizing exact dates and facts. I didn't mean to imply otherwise in my post, but just that the latter can reinforce the former.
Oh, I wasn't saying you did. I was just asking/commenting on you guys' opinion about it. As donnie said, it's all about critical thinking. That's why I'm liking this professor. She's asking questions that require critical thinking skills over the knowledge of dates and names (which I'm finding difficult due to the "crash course" nature of the class). My first couple of days of reading/notetaking were taking down facts, and that didn't really help me to answer, so I changed strategies.
skiguyModeratorI was going to add this about memorization. Perhaps this is just a beginner talking, but what's a deeper knowledge and what's more important? That I understand the concept and context of why General What's-his-name did something during the Greek-Persian War or that I remember his name? Besides, for me anyway, knowing the concept first helps me remember the other facts like dates and names.Take timelines for example, that's just all factual data. It's useless (for lack of a better word) to memorize the exact date of the Assyrian Empire, but very useful to know who else was around at that same time. If I'm off a few years, yes, academically that's not good (wrong answer on a quiz, poorly written paper), but it doesn't throw off the context. (unless your way off with the dates) This was my downfall in high school why I didn't like and do well in history. It was more memorization of simple facts instead of understanding the what's and why's, and I found that incredibly boring. Maybe this isn't the best attitude, but I don't care when Solzhenitsyn was in exile, I want to know why.
skiguyModeratorHistorians don't have to remember dates and names so much as they need to understand concepts, themes, and cause.
I agree 100%. With questions like "Why did the Greeks invent history, drama, philosophy?" it's not going to mean anything if one just memorizes dates and names.I think it depends on what kind of exam/quiz you're going to take too. A multiple choice quiz, for example, I find it easier to review the material an hour or two right before taking it. With an essay exam, however, you need to stay caught up throughout the semester. If you don't 'get it' while reading/studying, it's kind of too late. It's funny, I can sort of tell on the discussion assignments which students read the chapters real fast just to complete the reading, and which ones actually read for comprehension.Plus, you need sleep to stay alert. Back when I first went to URI, I remember some who crammed all night said they fell asleeep during the final.
skiguyModeratorThat would be cool! 🙂
skiguyModeratorYeah, I know. That's all I can find though. Surprised there isn't anything out there.
skiguyModeratorAnd I should have listened. :-[ (well, MLA was a requirement in that other class anyway. So that's my excuse)BTW, got a 100 on my first history quiz. (even got the Peloponnesian War question correct) Thank you for being here Western Civ forum!!
skiguyModeratorGood link. Univ of Wisconsin has some good links too. Have to do Chicago for history. (just when I was starting to get the hang of MLA)
skiguyModeratorTemporarily. This course goes from ancient civs to the 30 Year War. Rome next week!
skiguyModeratorIt's a tossup between the Battle at Issus (I liked the geographically strategic element of it and, even though the Greeks were outnumbered, they still won) and the Battle of the Granicus which was a very decisive victory and led the way for eastward expansion.
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