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May I ask what forces do You intend to put against France in this scenario?French plan 17 was perfectly suited for offensive operation against Germany so You would have to put a lot of troops to defend Alsace et Lorraine against French.
SmardzParticipantThe best thing is the men forgot to cut off the last letter. They stole only "Arbeit macht Fre"Our media told this soon after the men were captured. That's the best proof those poor men didn't even realize what they were stealing.
That they were that stupid makes it worse in a way doesn't it?
True. Another ridiculous thing is the payment which was given to them by Mr Hogstrom. It was said to be 6 thousand zlotys per each man = 2000 dollars
SmardzParticipantInteresting event.Until now I was convinced that our "party with the cross" in front of our presidential palace was the dumbest protest I've seen.
SmardzParticipantThe best thing is the men forgot to cut off the last letter. They stole only “Arbeit macht Fre”Our media told this soon after the men were captured. That's the best proof those poor men didn't even realize what they were stealing.
SmardzParticipant"If the Germans give us trouble, we will ride into Berlin with our sabres." Polish Colonel Beck, March 1939.The Poles were delighted to participate in the dismemberment of Czechslovakia and take Bratislava.
Poland took part in dismemberment of Czechoslovakia like a vulture. When Czechoslovakia was definitely killed by other gentlemen in Munich.Yet I'm suprised to learn that we took Bratislava 🙂
SmardzParticipantHello, From thi place i want to apologize for my English but i'm not an Englishman.
To make it short, just like the dominoes' theory during the Cold War : The start of the war is generally held to be September 1, 1939, with the invasion of Poland by Nazi Germany and subsequent declarations of war on Germany by France and most of the countries of the British Empire and Commonwealth. Alliance'treaties just like for WWI.
I must notice, that domineos' theory was not so obvious on September 1.The aliance between Poland and France (signed by ministries in May 1939 ) was not ratified by French parliament until 4th September 1939. French Republic was formally not bound to join the war.What is more, the British guarantee was just "a guarantee". If I remember correctly the meaning of this term from my law studies - guarantee is not a contract. It doesn't require ratification by parliament and formally does not bound any of the parties to action.
My curiosity was aroused because it seems apparent that the British were hoping that Poland would cometo some kind of agreement with Germany over Danzig and the Corridor which would satisfy HerrHitler and avoid a war. The Poles proved to be quite stubborn and unreasonable. My wife is Russian and Polish and I have a deep understanding of "stubborn" Neither the Poles or the British understood that the Austrian gentleman was convinced that destiny was guiding his hand and that he was absolutelydetermined to go to war in the east-- no "agreement" would be acceptable.
I agree on one point - Polish Staff did not expect all out war. However, military preparations were made since March 1939. Work on "battleplan Z" has been started in March. Building of fortifications along the border also was started in spring 1939. What is a proof that Polish Staff did not expect all out war? In the middle of August, when Hitler started secret mobilization all over Germany, Poland started secret mobilization of only "Danzks' intervention corps" (3 infantry division, one cavalry brigade) which was sent to the Corridor for demonstration.Full secret mobilization (all over Poland) wasn't started until evening of 23rd August 1939 and it was commenced because massive German concentration along the border was noticed. If You would like to know some more details from books written by Polish commanders of 1939, I can help 🙂
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