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ParticipantThings like these are always on going, but thats part of the fun.
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Participant? I don't think the Radical Islamic elements are going to see reason so we'll just have to see what happens next.
When society uses the word radical in connection with a group, then you can bet reason is something they no nothing about.
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ParticipantAugust 71964 Congress passes Gulf of Tonkin ResolutionThe United States Congress overwhelming approves the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, giving President Lyndon B. Johnson nearly unlimited powers to oppose "communist aggression" in Southeast Asia. The resolution marked the beginning of an expanded military role for the United States in the Cold War battlefields of Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.
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ParticipantSo, have you got everything the way you like it?
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ParticipantThe heart of the problem is that you cannot impose a form of government on any nation and expect long-term stability.?
True, all you do is breed contempt, like we are seeing now. An occupying force is never welcomed and someone who comes and says "do it our way, our way is the right way', we'll be opposed. Turn the tables, what if this country were invaded and occupied? What would you think of a foriegn government teling you to change completely how you do things and how you veiw things?
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ParticipantThen again, with a lack of essentially "free" slave labor (notwithstanding the price paid to purchase slaves), Southern plantations might have looked for alternative means for cutting costs, resulting in greater innovation and technological advancements.? This might have offset the cost of paying cotton worker wages.? It's an interesting "what if?" scenario.
I think it would have equaled out in the end. The money spent buying and caring for slaves (and I use the term caring loosely) probably would have equaled what they would have paid the workers in the end. All they would have had to do was pay them. With slaves they had to feed them, provide shelter, medical attention, pay someone to watch them (and punish if needed). Granted this would be those who owned the big plantations and many slaves but still who knows, it might have even been cheaper to hire then to own slaves. We all know picking cotten dont pay much, I've heard all the stories from my grandparents. Even I when growing up spent some time in the orchards with my parents and I can assure you they never got rich, they earned just enough to get us to the next orchard.
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ParticipantIt's not the first time I've heard the two decades compared. I think it is fair to compare the two. The ninties crash wasnt near as devistating as the crash of '29. Culture took a change for better or worse, you decide. No prohibition in the ninties (maybe the drug war is our prohibition) But lots of similarities.
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ParticipantI came of age in the eighties and it wasnt on the minds of people like it was twenty or thirty years before. I'm just glad we had 'The day after' to remind us we could all be cooked at any moment.
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ParticipantYeah, ain't "plausible deniability" a wonderful thing!
Yea for some, but the rest of would like to stick the phrase you know where.
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Participant? Who would have filled the role of slaves in agrarian development, especially in the South?? I'm interested in hearing what people have to say.
Just like today there are those who fill such jobs. I like to refer to them as the 'Tom Joads' of the world. Poor uneducated folks who are looking for what ever work they can to feed there families. There are no slaves now, but the rich build their wealth on the backs of the poor, I believe thats what they would have done then if slavery hadnt existed. Of course I am mainly refering to the south because the north was already doing it.
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Participanthistorywonk, if you were going to recommend what you think are definitive books on any person place or thing in american history, what would you recommend? I am always on the look out for some gem to add to my collection.
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ParticipantReagan was a twit who happened to be in office at the right time.?
I wouldnt go so far as to call him a twit, But I do believe that the great Soviet empire was on it's way out no matter who was in office, even if it had been Mondale.
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ParticipantWhat you have written here is a very scary scenario. But third world war? Violence in the middle east is nothing new. War in the middle east is nothing new. Do you think that because we are now so much more a global society that this new war will have more of an effect on the rest of the world that is watching? Maybe Globalazation is not such a good thing.
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ParticipantObviously, history's chapter on Iraq has not yet been written.? If Iraq is able to maintain a sustainable, secure, and peaceful governmental body, Iraq could very well become an oasis for democracy in the Middle East.? Any instability in Iraq currently is due directly to those who want to undermine the new government - namely, the insurgents.? I think that without insurgents planning attacks, there would be peace in Iraq.
I am not going to get into Bush bashing, not that I'm a fan, but when has there ever really been peace in the middle east, Bush or no Bush?
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ParticipantIs the software your using bundled with the SMF software, or are you using somethng else?
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